What the hell is wrong with the boys?

[bellsforher]

OK, at risk of sounding sexist, the boys here are bitch-fighting yet again. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the ladies of SS seem to get along just fine!

Maybe I just don't understand men.:rolleyes:

[Totka]

Do you think its an age thing? It seems there is a lot of passion about "which side I'm on". This tends to get worn down as the years take their toll. I think the women on this site have moved on from establishing their identity and so are less volatile.

[Baby]

Oh, haven't seen that. Which forum Bells? There are so many forums on this site my head spins.

I don't think straight men carry on like that, my brother is always complaining about women and their bitching!

[ammonite]

what thread?

[pho3nixphir3]

well these days i'm too tired to sift through their endless paragraphs, so i wouldn't have a clue. hasn't asherbella left us though? and we have an occasional disagreement, but yeah, i think we're alright.

and totka, what do you mean by which side? do you mean when there's an argument, people take sides of the debate or..?

[bellsforher]

oh...there's something in the Sydney thread about HIV...something about leaving us from Asherbella in the Chat and Gossip section.....

but it isn't just these couple of incidents. I've notice countless little and big spats on here from the boys over the years. Maybe women know when to leave well enough alone.

[just_dance]

I think here in the forums, we've switched roles a bit... The women are fine and the boys bitch! Lol. I'm not as active in the chat n gossip forum since I only post when I see something of interest to me but I noticed when I do, there's usually of it going on

[Totka]

Sorry, I meant which side of the argument people are on. Its not so much about the argument than it is about the identity attached to the opinion. "I'm an activist" or "I'm community minded", or "I'm an angry young man" or "I'm too cool to care". Its all very formative personality building work that most people get over during their adolescence.

[trina2004]

Well bells the obvious answer is because girls are better than boys! :D

There's a lot more boys on this site too, which I guess increases the chances of personality clash and trolling amongst the men.

[ammonite]

Sorry, I meant which side of the argument people are on. Its not so much about the argument than it is about the identity attached to the opinion. "I'm an activist" or "I'm community minded", or "I'm an angry young man" or "I'm too cool to care". Its all very formative personality building work that most people get over during their adolescence.

shrinks sometimes hypothesise that homos are a decade behind their peers in emotional development due to being closeted during their adolescence

[naughtylion]

shrinks sometimes hypothesise that homos are a decade behind their peers in emotional development due to being closeted during their adolescence

What about the boys that were never closeted? What's their excuse for being a decade behind? lol

[bellsforher]

Oh NL - do you really want me to answer that??? ;)

[naughtylion]

Oh NL - do you really want me to answer that??? ;)

hehe :)

[Baby]

Does anyone else also find them a bit...gross? They post threads about oral sex and their dicks and there's even one dude whose nick is doodle chaser. I'm just like *gag* boys are GROSS eeeewwwww!!!!

[ItsAllInTheEyes]

Does anyone else also find them a bit...gross? They post threads about oral sex and their dicks and there's even one dude whose nick is doodle chaser. I'm just like *gag* boys are GROSS eeeewwwww!!!!

I've had the gag reflex on a couple of occasions http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab262/ItsAllInTheEyes/th_vomit.gif

The really gross stuff is fine if its well labeled and you can choose not to look at it. I dont wander into the Hot boys thread, or the cocks, willies and dicks thread for example.

I do find it a bit ...umm...disrespectful though with some of the highly graphic male porn stuff thats posted in topical threads. Hello, Lesso comin through :rolleyes: A little self moderation wouldn't go astray.

I am finding the ladies lounge rather comfy atm. You ladies are just so darn demure, eloquent, and Oh so..... mysterious ;) :D

[pho3nixphir3]

well i think that it's a good thing to have them talking about that kind of taboo stuff. i mean, if we're censored here, where are we supposed to go? and at least they're being honest. if a little squabbly =P

i do like the ladies lounge, i feel a little safer here. but i wish it were a bit more consistently active.

[ammonite]

the cocks, willies and dicks thread for example.

i haven't been in there either, and i have this theory that there aren't actually any penis pics in there, it's just the boys waiting to see how long it takes for a lesbian to finally peer inside and discover the ruse.
they could be planning world domination in there and we wouldn't know.

[trina2004]

i do like the ladies lounge, i feel a little safer here. but i wish it were a bit more consistently active.

Same! one week this is the cool place for us chicks to hang out and the next its a ghost town.

[pho3nixphir3]

i know, and i feel bad for being the only poster =/

[ItsAllInTheEyes]

i haven't been in there either, and i have this theory that there aren't actually any penis pics in there, it's just the boys waiting to see how long it takes for a lesbian to finally peer inside and discover the ruse.
they could be planning world domination in there and we wouldn't know.

lol. maybe we should all pop in and start posting stuff of our own :p lol

Glad to see the rest of you ladies here.....I was beginning to feel like I was spamming the ladies lounge earlier :o

[trina2004]

i know, and i feel bad for being the only poster =/


Glad to see the rest of you ladies here.....I was beginning to feel like I was spamming the ladies lounge earlier:o


Glad to know we all feel the same way! We'll just have to keep the ladies lounge alive! I don't have a life, so it shouldn't be too hard for me:)

[just_dance]

I'm sure we can find plenty to talk about :) I feel a bit the same in the Perth forum! lol. Although theres been 2 new threads in the past few weeks which is nice! I agree that its lovely to have a nice relaxed chat in LL :) So it's nice to see some life!

[Totka]

i haven't been in there either, and i have this theory that there aren't actually any penis pics in there, it's just the boys waiting to see how long it takes for a lesbian to finally peer inside and discover the ruse.
they could be planning world domination in there and we wouldn't know.

Ah, yes there are, as well as links to some truly crazy stuff. I suggest averting your innocent eyes.

[ammonite]

Ah, yes there are, as well as links to some truly crazy stuff. I suggest averting your innocent eyes.

how do i know you're not just saying that to keep us out? :p

[Baby]

Glad to know we all feel the same way! We'll just have to keep the ladies lounge alive! I don't have a life, so it shouldn't be too hard for me:)
Good plan!! Let's all make an effort to post new threads and keep conversations going.

If all else fails we can copy the boys and make a "muffs, poon and pussy" thread.

[ammonite]

If all else fails we can copy the boys and make a "muffs, poon and pussy" thread.

aaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha

that is an awesome idea

i dare anyone to do it

[tweety]

i dare anyone to do it

you better post your contribution!!! :D

[bellsforher]

I have indeed looked at, and posted, in the cocks willies dicks thread. I find it all fairly infantile. I was attempting to understand the gay male psyche. I learned nothing, lol! :P

[tweety]

I have indeed looked at, and posted, in the cocks willies dicks thread. I find it all fairly infantile. I was attempting to understand the gay male psyche. I learned nothing, lol! :P

the cock IS the gay male psyche! :D

[trina2004]

the cock IS the gay male psyche! :D

I think the cock is the male psyche full stop. lol.

[just_dance]

Too bloody right Trina!

[trina2004]

Too bloody right Trina!

Hehehe I love how essentially we are jumping from thread to thread having a convo with each other. :)

[just_dance]

lol yep! its fun :D many different conversations, same two people! lol. helps we r like the only ones awake...

[trina2004]

lol yep! its fun :D many different conversations, same two people! lol. helps we r like the only ones awake...

lol they will all wake up tomorrow and the forum will have been taken over! Nocturnal girls have invaded!:D

[just_dance]

hahaha yup! Trina and Sara Take Over SameSame will be the headlines!! lol

[trina2004]

hahaha yup! Trina and Sara Take Over SameSame will be the headlines!! lol

I feel like that line deserves a thread all of its own:D

[just_dance]

hahahaha all the girls will come on in the morning and be like 'WTF? Sara and Trine take over samesame?' lmao. we should so do it

[trina2004]

Lets do it.

[just_dance]

we are the awesome two!

[trina2004]

king and queen of the ladies lounge lol

[just_dance]

and the rest are our court! the rest are our lords and ladies

[trina2004]

yeah!

[trina2004]

Maybe sometimes we're a little non-confrontational and people pleasing.. Maybe we should be "more" confrontational. Nothing comes out of complacency. Frankly, there are things to be to confrontational about in the lesbian identity and our individual experience wihin this identity. Otherwise how can we understand each other as individuals.

Being so caught up in meeting people or "reaching out" we choose to compromise those things that are actually important to just "make friends". I know I did it, and others have as well.

I don't really know what to say, except that I'm interested to hear more of your point of view.

[just_dance]

I don't know what to say either, but I agree we need to be more confrontational. the boys wont take notice otherwise! It's the only way. otherwise theres not much point...

[trina2004]

I don't know what to say either, but I agree we need to be more confrontational. the boys wont take notice otherwise! It's the only way. otherwise theres not much point...

I agree. Its hard though- over in C&G all being confrontational seemed to do was bring out the men that hate women. :(

[just_dance]

I don't think they liked us raining on their parade... The problem is that we *aren't* confrontational... If a few of us started posting girly threads, that'd be cool. but I can't think of anything to post... can u?

[trina2004]

I don't think they liked us raining on their parade... The problem is that we *aren't* confrontational... If a few of us started posting girly threads, that'd be cool. but I can't think of anything to post... can u?

I don't know. I'm sure we could have a tits thread and a maturbation thread and a random hook-ups thread..but I just am not that interested. The stuff I wanna know as a lesbian, and about other lesbians, and the stuff I am interested in is not really, for the most part, about sex. Or at least...not in the graphic detail the men seem to be in to.

[just_dance]

yup. thats exactly how i feel. thats why i like our little LL where we can make our threads and not have them hijacked by boys who wants to turn it into a slingfest! We don't need to comment on our lady parts every second post to affirm our femininity!

[Baby]

There was talk of making a girls only section of same same, but for some reason people (and I mean the girls!) started getting all offended by the idea of "segregation" as they put it. I didn't see it as segregation, but rather a place for the lesbians to get together and talk about girl stuff without feeling like we are playing in the boys playground. Then we pretty much had the conversation you guys just had above, that the girls just need to get more confrontational. But not all girls are like that, I wonder how many quiet girls we have here who read and don't post, who might open up on a girls only site?

[ammonite]

there is already an australian lesbian forum http://www.thepinksofa.com.au/guest/grrltalk.asp

[Happy to be me]

I agree re im not into"porn " and talking about sex sex sex sex sex , every sec of the day lol!

I love women with insight and can talk about topics other than who is screwing who or which movie star is cheatin g on who..

I dont mind a perve but would rather check out a tastefull creative mag than a slease ridden show of body parts ..

guess im a bit old fashioned, but i like mystery and find a woman who treats herself respectfully is usually someone who i would like to get to know better..

[ItsAllInTheEyes]

there is already an australian lesbian forum http://www.thepinksofa.com.au/guest/grrltalk.asp

I really like the forums there Amm. You can find out ALOT about the Lesbian culture there....even the stuff you may not feel comfy posting about/questioning ;)

[ammonite]

i've never been on there.

the idea of only being able to talk to lesbians puts me off for some reason.

[ItsAllInTheEyes]

i've never been on there.

the idea of only being able to talk to lesbians puts me off for some reason.

They are a site for LBT, just no G.

It was great when this place was lagging so badly....glad to see they fixed it.

[just_dance]

I like SS, even with all our fights! lol. Plus i don't have the brainspace for more than one forum! lol. And I like knowing all of the girls here :)

[Queerdo]

lol, funny thread :) You sound like a funny and intelligent bunch. I'd better go and learn how to use this forum. It sucks a bit.

[just_dance]

haha we try to be!! The forums can be a little confusing at first, but give it a go! We're a little slow with the easter break, but we should pick up again in a few days :)

[Queerdo]

Thanks just_dance, I will, I don't mind if it's slow, easier to keep up and get to know everyone that way. Busy forums can be a bit overwhelming.

[just_dance]

Lol yeah they can be. Ladies Lounge is usually fairly slow in comparison to others, but it's got some life in it at least. We had a dead period for a good while! You came at the right time :)

[trina2004]

Thanks just_dance, I will, I don't mind if it's slow, easier to keep up and get to know everyone that way. Busy forums can be a bit overwhelming.

Hey queerdo!

The Ladies lounge is a great forum! and I'm not just saying that cause me and Sara (just_dance) are King and Queen of it! Lol. Seriously though, I've got to know some great people through samesame and I'm sure it'll be the same for you:)

[pho3nixphir3]

what am i then? joker? prince? bard?

[just_dance]

what do you want to be?

[trina2004]

what am i then? joker? prince? bard?

Anything you want to be Pho:) Shout out your name to world! :D ;)

[Happy to be me]

Its not a matter of talkin sex constantly its a matter of being sex positive. Happy, if I were you I would question if my idea of "tasteful" or "sleaze" is conditioned by the heterosexual patriararical society. I believe queer and trans women no longer live within these boundaries (there are no rules) and can and "are" making up our own ideas of what sex, intimacy, porn and relationships are to them.
Ta Jules...
I meant the subversive way men portray women as sex on a stick..

i like some raw nudity like most..;)
Though i can't stand the way men post totally offensive pics in open forums on ss...
thats more what i meant..

I got a copy of zoo and pitcure late last year on velvetys advice...
i just am a bit feministic on how the poses r so degrading ....

Peace all Lily x

[bellsforher]

I used to buy Black and White magazine...when i could afford it.....god some of that photography is hot....and classy too ;) Much nicer than anything found in men's mags.

BTW, on the subject of LL links, some silly person in my Ask SS thread is suggesting I make my own link....um....I shouldn't have to....is my request that bloody difficult?!!!

[just_dance]

Some people are just idiots Bells. They haven't really considered what we are asking for *rolls eyes*

as for mags... I think the last time I saw one was when I was 10 years old and in my uncle's loo at his warehouse. I picked it up, not realising what it was, and went o_O lol. I never really thought of buying my own...

[ammonite]

as for mags... I think the last time I saw one was when I was 10 years old and in my uncle's loo at his warehouse. I picked it up, not realising what it was, and went o_O lol. I never really thought of buying my own...

When I was 10 I had a scrapbook of pictures of women I had collected from perfume ads in women's weekly, and target underwear catalogs.

But I didn't realise it was a 'lesbian' thing until (at 11) I showed my friend.
That was not a fun year.

One day I was so disgusted with myself that I threw it out.

I really wish I still had it now; looking back on it with adult eyes it was really kind of sweet.

[gold_femme]

There was talk of making a girls only section of same same, but for some reason people (and I mean the girls!) started getting all offended by the idea of "segregation" as they put it. I didn't see it as segregation, but rather a place for the lesbians to get together and talk about girl stuff without feeling like we are playing in the boys playground. Then we pretty much had the conversation you guys just had above, that the girls just need to get more confrontational. But not all girls are like that, I wonder how many quiet girls we have here who read and don't post, who might open up on a girls only site?


the reason i wasnt into is im opposed to separatism....cultural, class, gender and any other way society excludes people


i agree with what you say about quiet girls..and perhaps we could encourage more girls/women to join in if we had an exclusive site/forum..but i also think that alot of 'quiet' girls might be more threatened by an exclusive space..for example ive met alot of young women who when they come out, have surrounded themselves with gay men - their friends from high school etc and find the idea of going to a womens only club completely terrifying. ...they much prefer the company of gay men until they slowly (or fastly) meet more and more lesbians and then are empowered and not threatened.

i think we should never assume what different people might need to empower themselves, and sadly no one can really do any of this stuff for you but yourself.


im not convinced we need a women/girl only space - but i am convinced we need to post more confidently and as often as we can and this thing will evolve into the place we want it to be.

i also think what julesnox said is awesome - its so true - i constantly find myself toning down my opinions so i dont offend. its my personality, but i do admire the boys for being as gross - opinionated - sexual as they want to be. and like all forms of media..rather than censor it..just dont look if you dont want to.

[bellsforher]

Ammi, that is such a sweet story!
god kids are cruel.....I don't know why your friend thought it sus - it sounds like a girly kind of thing to do - I'm quite sure I knew straight girls who did similar things. I'd love it if you'd kept it - be interesting to now what your 10 year old mind was attracted to! :)

[just_dance]

When I was 10 I had a scrapbook of pictures of women I had collected from perfume ads in women's weekly, and target underwear catalogs.

But I didn't realise it was a 'lesbian' thing until (at 11) I showed my friend.
That was not a fun year.

One day I was so disgusted with myself that I threw it out.

I really wish I still had it now; looking back on it with adult eyes it was really kind of sweet.

It would be quite interesting to see I would think! I don't recall doing anything like that... I did have an awful lot of female celebrities on my wall though...

i also think what julesnox said is awesome - its so true - i constantly find myself toning down my opinions so i dont offend. its my personality, but i do admire the boys for being as gross - opinionated - sexual as they want to be. and like all forms of media..rather than censor it..just dont look if you dont want to.

so true! It's part of who I am. I regulate what I say and do in accordance with what is expected of me, and so that I don't offend anyone. I've always done it and probably always will!

[ammonite]

i agree with what you say about quiet girls..and perhaps we could encourage more girls/women to join in if we had an exclusive site/forum..but i also think that alot of 'quiet' girls might be more threatened by an exclusive space..for example ive met alot of young women who when they come out, have surrounded themselves with gay men - their friends from high school etc and find the idea of going to a womens only club completely terrifying. ...they much prefer the company of gay men until they slowly (or fastly) meet more and more lesbians and then are empowered and not threatened.

this is me. i was just saying how i never went on the pink sofa forums, because the women only thing made me really uncomfortable.

i find it's much easier for me to talk to and make friends with gay men.

[just_dance]

this is me. i was just saying how i never went on the pink sofa forums, because the women only thing made me really uncomfortable.

i find it's much easier for me to talk to and make friends with gay men.

again, I am the oddball... I have one male friend, and he isn't gay... Just never really 'clicked' with guys. I've always done things the odd way though...

[ammonite]

I'm quite sure I knew straight girls who did similar things.Really? Why did they do it?

god kids are cruel.....I don't know why your friend thought it susMy friend definitely thought something was sus, as did the whole class, and half the school. But I am assuming it was the scrapbook, it might not have been - I may have said something about our mutual friend who I had a crush on or something.

A brother and sister joined the class half way through the year, and by the time I met them that morning, they had already been told. While I was standing behind the girl chatting (obviously thinking about raping her) the brother gay panicked and attacked me from the side, bulldozing me into a brick wall while screaming "Get away from my sister you lesbian!".
It really really wasn't at the time but it seems hilarious now LOL.

I'd love it if you'd kept it - be interesting to now what your 10 year old mind was attracted to! :)

The only one that I can really remember well was a magazine ad with a blonde woman who's chest was covered in little stick on sparkly gem things like they were beads of water dripping down her

[Happy to be me]

MORAL TO THE STORY.....
Be more outspoken girls....and if the boys r offended just ignore it!!
Bells there will always be bullies in life ...

I agree i never open up or go to sites that sound offensive 2 me !!

Peace xo

[trina2004]

A brother and sister joined the class half way through the year, and by the time I met them that morning, they had already been told. While I was standing behind the girl chatting (obviously thinking about raping her) the brother gay panicked and attacked me from the side, bulldozing me into a brick wall while screaming "Get away from my sister you lesbian!".
It really really wasn't at the time but it seems hilarious now LOL.



This is sad. Terrible, really. But yes, with the benefit of time, hilarious. :D
What did that boy think you were going to do? Gay up his sister by standing near her? I'd like to think that if I had children they would know better by the time they reached 10 or 11. little fuckers. :)

[just_dance]

Kids can be truly horrible... Thank god they never realised I was gay!!! I got teased enough without the girls freaking out whenever I went near them! Glad you can see the funny side of it now Ammi :)