Hillsong: Lets Talk About Sex

[Tim D]

The popularity of Hillsong really scare me when you start to scratch beneath the surface and see what they really stand for.

Sy Rogers is the gayest man I've ever seen or heard in my life, and you really have to wonder what's going on with an organisation when they preach that repression is the only way, cause that's all that "ex-gay" is - repressing your true feelings.

[mikeysyd]

I really don't know whether to despise these people or pity them, particularly our host. Given the damage they do to the lives of others, I think I'm tending toward despise.

[meezon04]

I grew up listening to Hillsong and used to want to go to the event. i still think it'd be cool one day, but the minute they start condeming my sexuality is when they got a pissed off Christian on their hands

[jackie87]

What a good popularity stake in an election year for a "church" that is probably the biggest pick up joint and money makers in the entire country.

[blueterrace]

Dont know if its true or not, but an ex Hillsonger at work said they constantly churn over membership to keep the cash rolling in.

[pinkyboisyd]

I read this which is apparently by Sy Rogers -

http://www.stonewallrevisited.com/pages/sy_r.html

I love how people like to turn to god when they can't accept reality...

So sad that some people just can't accept who they are but instead they have to make up some bullshit lie which is a lame attempt to make them feel better about themselves....

OH and to make it better i found this website

http://exodus.to/help/?option=com_content&task=view&id=327&Itemid=147

It gives you handy steps on how not to be a homosexual..... (love the fact that the first thing they do is plug their own membership...)


but as if u would want to?

[Savoy]

I read this which is apparently by Sy Rogers -

http://www.stonewallrevisited.com/pages/sy_r.html

I love how people like to turn to god when they can't accept reality...

This is so fucking typical of convert-repressed jobs:

Shortly fter my return to the U.S., I joined the military. Stationed in Hawaii, I totally immersed myself in Honolulu's gay scene. But behind the facade of acceptance and the promise of love, I saw many unhappy, cynical, and desperate people in the gay lifestyle. Couples who claimed to be in love often wondered, "How long will it last this time?"

Of course if you immerse yourself in bars and nightclubs, chances are you will not find love (I am generalising here). He probably ended up in a leather sling every other night and wondered why he couldn't find "love". You could ask the same question about anyone in love anyway. Dork!

He also calls it "the gay lifestyle", whereas that is an obvious part ie the commercial scene, but a small part of it all. Idiot!

When shows like Ricky Lake used to have "converted" gays on, it was always the same:

"Oh, I dunno Ricki. I would go out to the leather clubs and only meet guys that were only after one thing and I couldn't find lurrrve. Boo hoo. I was sooooo unhappy!".

Well, duh!

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[MelbLouie]

good lord....

[Funking Trance]

Its pretty scary really the power and popularity of the christian right in Australia.
Is this another example of Australia following America's lead yet again?

[yesiam]

Anyone want to protest at these events? The conservative Christian right protest at our events... why not turn the tables on them! Check out the Hillsong website... its just scary!

[Tim D]

I was thinking of going along to one of them to see what Sy Rogers was going to talk about - only problem was they were all full!

[Dan Murphy]

I wonder if he realises how ironic it is to call his show Turn Around?

[Blinking With Fists]

LMAO.

At least his name is Sy Rogers and not something like Ben Dover.

[cheekywogboy]

i dont need no old man who is in denial to tell me to change and turn around when i have more faith than him. I love God very much and he loves me back. so do my family. at the end of the day God made me this way... so guys if i were you i wouldnt protest... i would just laugh at these people. cause they have no idea who God truly is. i have gone to hillsong and to be honest they are just actors... finding healing comes within each individual, not through say God this and Jesus that to a thousand people in a hall. as long as you have faith in God and belive that you are living the way Jesus taught, then dont worry. besides never once in the bible did Jesus talk about two men loving each other being wrong.... Only God will judge us.... God bless ya'll. Sleaze here we come...

[Thatguy]

If god had ment for men and women to be together he would have given them both pensises

[Christopher]

Hey now - Personally I think religion is the biggest load of crap. But we have to accept that there will some some that will not be pleased with the worlds ways.

Further more, its not right that we insult back... thats like the saying two wrongs dont make a right. I tell you ignorance is bliss!

[Thatguy]

There are some things you can change and some things you can't. Sorry Sy - you can't catch being gay and you can't cure it either. What you can do is accept yourself and others.

[Tim D]

Has anyone else read Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion? I devoured it over the weekend and it is just brilliant.

[pinkyboisyd]

If god had ment for men and women to be together he would have given them both pensises



LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Zakalwe]

Has anyone else read Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion? I devoured it over the weekend and it is just brilliant.

Yep! Its really good.

What was raised in the book that really got me thinking; and I hadnt considered it at all before, which was Dawkins' point; was that we are programed to "respect" religious belief. Its a "get out of jail free card" for all sorts of inapropriate, illogical, and down right nasty behaviour, and those of us who are non-believers just have to put up with it.

Radical christians like this Sy person, when questioned about their claims, use the victim/martyr and respect ploy quite readilly. Those of us free thinkers must not let them get away with it.

Dawkins is working on some more doccos too apparently, so more to look forward to.

[jimjazz]

also, letter to a christian nation by sam harris is also great. check out my review under my published galleries.

[ben j]

i read it recently too tim...it is brilliantly written - so many thoughts i've had about religion, expressed so much more succinctly than i ever could have

the man's a genius i tells ya

[dingo84]

I have seen the God Delusion in stores.. However I am presently reading one that was right along side it called "God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything" Quite a negative book lol

[meezon04]

If god had ment for men and women to be together he would have given them both pensises
Lmao! That is the best quote I have heard in a long time!!

[Tim D]

I was chatting with a friend of mine last night and was one of his mates is a a bit of a messed up Hillsong gay who can't reconcile his faith with his sexuality (mainly becuase his church doesn't let him), and he went along to this talk.

He was saying that the whole thurst of the talk from the "former pre-op tranny" guy was that the feelings that you might have towards guys are just mateship feelings, and there's nothing with that, as long as you're aware that they're just "close mate" feelings.

Hmmmmm, I have friends and I have boyfriends, and trust me, the feelings are different towards both...

[daev]

Isn't this akin to Ted Haggarts megachurch evangelical born again hoo haa in the US?



In November 2006, he resigned or was removed from all of his leadership positions after allegations of homosexual sex and drug abuse were made by whistleblower Mike Jones, a former prostitute. Initially Haggard denied even knowing Mike Jones, but as a media investigation proceeded he acknowledged that some allegations, such as his purchase of methamphetamine, were true. He later added "sexual immorality" to his list of confessions.

After the scandal was publicized, Haggard entered three weeks of intensive counseling, overseen by four ministers. On February 6, 2007 one of those ministers, Tim Ralph, stated that Haggard "is completely heterosexual." Ralph later said he meant to say that therapy "gave Ted the tools to help to embrace his heterosexual side."

[kiwi-damnation]

This is so fucking typical of convert-repressed jobs:



Of course if you immerse yourself in bars and nightclubs, chances are you will not find love (I am generalising here). He probably ended up in a leather sling every other night and wondered why he couldn't find "love". You could ask the same question about anyone in love anyway. Dork!

He also calls it "the gay lifestyle", whereas that is an obvious part ie the commercial scene, but a small part of it all. Idiot!

When shows like Ricky Lake used to have "converted" gays on, it was always the same:

"Oh, I dunno Ricki. I would go out to the leather clubs and only meet guys that were only after one thing and I couldn't find lurrrve. Boo hoo. I was sooooo unhappy!".

Well, duh!

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I so agree with you. It's the same in the nightclubs that heterosexuals frequent. You don't often find true love in an environment like that. To generalise that gay people basically whore themselves out in that scene and then idiotically wonder why they haven't found love is preposterous and ludicrous. Honestly, some people should be punished for their stupidity and ignorance.

I walked out of the church too when a guest priest came in and gave a sermon on 'the depravity that is homosexuality'. I was sitting next to my girlfriend and was like WTF? I know the church is against it, but God is all about love hence why I became Christian in the first place. To be attacked so openly in front of a good 150 people, and told I am basically a walking sin because I exist and am as I was made was appalling so I resigned never to walk into church again. Ahh the prejudice, oh the bullshit.

[rudeboy86]

I would also just for the record remind people that this nation is defined by the constitution as a secular nation. This is what I always throw at mad religious nutbags who want to pressure the government into changing the laws to suit their religious dogma.

[kiwi-damnation]

I would also just for the record remind people that this nation is defined by the constitution as a secular nation. This is what I always throw at mad religious nutbags who want to pressure the government into changing the laws to suit their religious dogma.

True that!

[boozehag]

theres some pretty sick people out there...
i just sent exodus a rude email and now i wish i didnt because i want to see whats in their "one off information pack"
anyone want to go to a hillsong concert with me? i heard they lock the doors once everyones inside... but i dunno if thats true... if it is im sure theyre breaking some sort of fire safety code or something
it would be fun to screw with them a little

[pho3nixphir3]

i have uni friends who listen to hillsong music, discuss the events and talk about all going there as a bunch. i think i'm the strongest atheist there, so it feels weird.

[boozehag]

you should tell them the gay community has created a reverse gay conversion camp they can go to so they can unstraighten themselves

[Happy to be me]

theres some pretty sick people out there...
i just sent exodus a rude email and now i wish i didnt because i want to see whats in their "one off information pack"
anyone want to go to a hillsong concert with me? i heard they lock the doors once everyones inside... but i dunno if thats true... if it is im sure theyre breaking some sort of fire safety code or something
it would be fun to screw with them a little

Went to one in 2005 with ex sister in law...

Total BRAINWASH- A- THON!!!:eek: :eek:

Seriously if you have a weak mind you are in trouble!!

The Band was quite good though, For a christian one.

And they had a real 'party 'atmosphere!

I laughed at the amenities though the ladies port aloo's were 5 star!!
No expense spared!!

they were like a movie star's trailer lights around the mirrors and nice handsoaps and all!!

if they sent the $$$$ from the toilets expenditure alone they could sponsor a feww kids!

I'm still a repressed catholic though too stubborn to be a convert!!!:cool: