Lesbians aren't at risk of HIV. So why fund HIV prevention programs aimed at lesbians? Better to aim them at queer poly pan bi sexuals.

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Originally Posted by coast_boy_21

Notice how lots of gays and lesbians who are defending the LNP, but don't actually live in Queensland, hence are not affected by the LNP. It's like if the NSW govt axed GLBT services and us Queenslanders sided with the NSW government. Very ironic.

I suspect that if NSW goverment to an axe to acon a lot of nsweshlmen would be cheering!

I suggest that some people *cough* MrAsh *cough* should check out the website and see the plethora of what www.qahc.org.au do. Instead of making random speculative comments.

I also want to say that I'm not tied to QAHC in anyway shape or form. I just read.

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Originally Posted by HubbaHubba

Lesbians aren't at risk of HIV. So why fund HIV prevention programs aimed at lesbians? Better to aim them at queer poly pan bi sexuals.

Yes because lesbians don't have bodily fluids. Honey runs through our veins.

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Originally Posted by andrewc

I suggest that some people *cough* MrAsh *cough* should check out the website and see the plethora of what www.qahc.org.au do. Instead of making random speculative comments.

I also want to say that I'm not tied to QAHC in anyway shape or form. I just read.

Oh I did look at that funny site which comes across as being heavily orientated towards gay men and not much for the rest of LBTIQ.

Yet apparently ACON had the first national lesbian health project.

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Originally Posted by HubbaHubba

queer poly pan bi sexuals.

Sounds like something from a Disney movie.....

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Originally Posted by trina2004

Yes because lesbians don't have bodily fluids. Honey runs through our veins.

no. It's because lesbians (as opposed to pan bi queer) only have sex with women and at this stage of the game it's still predominatly men - and gay men in particular - who have this disease. If u or your sex partner don't have sex with that group of people then u are at low risk of HIV. Hence lesbians are only at risk when they have sex with bi or gay men. Which isn't very "lesbian".

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Originally Posted by Anthony Mahera

Sounds like something from a Disney movie.....

next years mardi gras sponsor!

That's the joke we are becoming as a alphabet community. As if there is a difference between bisexual pan sexual or polysexual. Or even queer for that matter.....

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Originally Posted by HubbaHubba

next years mardi gras sponsor!

That's the joker.....

Hubba, the joke is the gay community is now so sanitised, bland and safe (i.e Sheldon) that Disney might want to sponsor Mardi Gras as part of the continuous expansion of potential consumers

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Originally Posted by HubbaHubba

no. It's because lesbians (as opposed to pan bi queer) only have sex with women and at this stage of the game it's still predominatly men - and gay men in particular - who have this disease. If u or your sex partner don't have sex with that group of people then u are at low risk of HIV. Hence lesbians are only at risk when they have sex with bi or gay men. Which isn't very "lesbian".

Incorrect. Lesbian sex is low risk, yet transmission of HIV can still occur with exchange of vaginal fluids and menstrual blood. The transmission can be through, cunninlingus, vaginal or anal fisting and sharing of sex toys.

I'm not sure of the validity of this, yet I've heard there are some lesbian women who are into 'blood sucking' where they have a fetish/liking for menstural blood. If one or few of the women of Same Same can give more information on whether this is fact or urban myth, it would be appreciated.

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Originally Posted by MrAsh

I'm not sure of the validity of this, yet I've heard there are some lesbian women who are into 'blood sucking' where they have a fetish/liking for menstural blood. If one or few of the women of Same Same can give more information on whether this is fact or urban myth, it would be appreciated.

ewwwwwww....

immature, but my first reaction!

Ever heard of GLWA Gay Lesbian Wealthfare Association of QLD , GL rights lobby QLD. I feel both QAHC and ACON are redundant and no longer serve the intended purpose, both would be better suited within the current respective Health Departments and focus on the Sexual health Of All not just a group. While Gay/Lesbian (homosexual) lobbying, welfare and politics would be better consolidated within current lobby groups instead and focus on rights of homosexuals.

? Is it even legal to be a homosexual in QLD or is it just decriminalised ? Meaning being a homosexual is not legal but not a criminal offense. It wasn't 3 years ago and I'm not certain if that has changed.

Half the time I feel these TWO organisation serve only themselves while other services are left to serve the needs. I always been amused that both focused on Gay men but are Queensland and New South Wales Aids Council. I also get angered when I see vast amounts of money spent on materials that sit in massive piles only to be dumped in the trash. Or when I go to a gay venue and in one cubicle 3 posters and then a mainstream venue and see none, yet not all gays, bisexuals and Pansexuals go to gay venues so the Minister is correct in suggesting what he did, it's not helping to reduce or targeting the the correct audience. I certainly don't need reminding every time I walk in to a gay venue to use protection.

We are all still covered federally under defacto relationships. If people are concerned it would serve you best to write a letter to your local member of Parliament outlineing how repelling civil unions will harm you, will harm the community, as well as addressing how having civil unions benefits you and the community. Writing to MPs is a constitutional right and is more powerful than protests or writing a name on a petition, as long as its respectful and civil.

@ hubbahubba I too was confused on the topic of Pan/omnisexual and bi, the difference is more spiritual gender neutral, Gender fluid. Pan/omnisexual will have sex/love anyone regardless of sexual gender or orientation ie intersex/androgynous/hermaphrodite transsexual homosexual heterosexual or bisexual and usually with a focus on who rather than what a person is. But not limited to. Bi-sexual male or female only.
Gay/lesbian Women are at risk of HIV while it's low they are. Please remember HIV is not just sexually transmissible, and this is not to say women who have HIV contracted through needle use. Besides that tattoos and blood transfusions are other avenues of transfer, not that either is much of a risk here but in other countries yes.

I cannot see how marriage will stop sexual behaviour, so what, now you get married and bam you become monogamous. I'm sure all the call boys will question that logic. Hang a sec i'll just tell my other brain we are married now! I'm sure that marriage stops heterosexuals from having a bit on the side, what swingers clubs? No sorry that is a delusion of conservitive heteronormative and a very dangerous one. People will still be having sex and there's nothing you can do to stop them. I've been married 11 years and it hasn't stopped us. I've got mates who have been together 30 years and it's never stopped them. Open honest trusting does not = married.

Any solicitor can draw up legally binding contracts between two people, you don't need a marriage certificate to ensure the same out come financially.

^ They sound like sensible, pragmatic ideas, Rob_smith. Much more so than the senationalist headline in the latest Star Observer which has a screaming headline Dark Days ahead; Qld government's arrack on the community.

It would be good to get some facts on the matter. Unfortunately pollies and 'public servants' are so very good at spin, obscuring facts about their inter-departmental 'turf wars' and how they all they build their little taxpayer-paid empires.

(I'm having a little battle with my local council who are increasing my rates for no good reason; they saying they're building a 'new library for the community' when Blind Freddy knows it's bigger, carpeted offices for the growing number of staff who provide stuff the ratepayers don't actually need or want.)

Controversial anti-gay Sunshine Coast MP Fiona Simpson has been announced as the new Speaker of Queensland’s parliament.
She will be the state’s first ever female Parliamentary Speaker.
An advocate of so-called ‘reparative therapy’ for homosexuals, the Liberal National Party MP famously told the state’s legislative assembly that homosexuals could “grow into heterosexuality over time”.
The conservative Christian, who was the shadow minister responsible for communities and women, also encouraged people struggling with their sexuality to contact Exodus ministries – part of a Christian ‘ex-gay’ organisation that claims to be able to cure homosexuality.
This is more evidence that the LNP has an agenda to take away all GLBT peoples rights.

Better to have her as speaker where she's effectively gagged, than spouting that crap on the floor of parliament.

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Originally Posted by Rob_smith

Ever heard of GLWA Gay Lesbian Wealthfare Association of QLD , GL rights lobby QLD.

I have heard of them and did some volunteering for them once... they are not a lobby group at all... it is/was an independant organisation totally run by volunteers that provides a free telephone counselling service... They actually fill a gap in the "free" depression services as a number of the other hotlines are not well equipped to handle Gay and Lesbian issues. And some refuse to.

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Originally Posted by Rob_smith

Gay/lesbian Women are at risk of HIV while it's low they are. Please remember HIV is not just sexually transmissible, and this is not to say women who have HIV contracted through needle use. Besides that tattoos and blood transfusions are other avenues of transfer, not that either is much of a risk here but in other countries yes.

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so I still don't get why you would target HIV prevention to lesbians when targeting those services to people who inject would also cover those lesbians who Inject (because that is the high risk behaviour - not cunniligus (sucking a mans cock is higher risk than cnnilingus and male blow jobs are low risk)).

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Originally Posted by Rob_smith

I cannot see how marriage will stop sexual behaviour, so what, now you get married and bam you become monogamous. I'm sure all the call boys will question that logic. Hang a sec i'll just tell my other brain we are married now! I'm sure that marriage stops heterosexuals from having a bit on the side, what swingers clubs? No sorry that is a delusion of conservitive heteronormative and a very dangerous one. People will still be having sex and there's nothing you can do to stop them. I've been married 11 years and it hasn't stopped us. I've got mates who have been together 30 years and it's never stopped them. Open honest trusting does not = married.

marriage won't stop sexual behaviour but it will change it.

People who play outside their marriage/r'ship would be more likely to play safe so they don't infect their husbands.

Also marriage will reduce the number of rships that serial monogamists get into. It's much harder to split with someone after you've made a public commitment to them. Sure it'll still happen but people wil be more likely to keep trying for longer because "wouldn't it be embarrasing if we got a divorce after spending all that money on our wedding and inviting so many people to hear us say our vows, perhaps we should wrk thru this ruff patch before we go down the embarrasing route".

Thirdly long term stable r'ships provide other health outcomes, such as having someone there to take care of you when u r sick, someone to insist u go to the dr's, someone to cut up fruit for you so u r eating healthy. And those small behaviours add up to a healthier life and therfore more years on this planet.

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Originally Posted by HubbaHubba

… long term stable r'ships provide other health outcomes, such as having someone there to take care of you when u r sick, someone to insist u go to the dr's, someone to cut up fruit for you so u r eating healthy….

I SO agree with that. Families use to take responsibility for themselves; nowdays everything is so casual that people can't be bothered with ANY form of commitment; parents expect the school teachers to raise their children or the taxpayers to look after all their private woes.

....For tax payers to pay for their childrens expenses but not have a say on their morals.....

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Originally Posted by MrAsh

@Ammonite I haven't had any dealings with QAHC yet from looking at their website it's clear that the organisations purpose is solely focused on GLTBIQ communities and not about assisting and educating the whole QLD community on HIV/AIDS, sexuality and sexual health related issues.

If you compare QAHC to an organisation like the Western Australian AIDS Council (WAAC) you'll find that QAHC has a very limited agenda and I can see why they have been targeted for funding cuts and withdrawl.

AIDS/HIV, sexuality and sexual health issues don't just affect GLBTIQ communities, they affect everyone and those services should be provided for everyone, regardless of sexual orientation or gender.

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