i wish i had a mate like this guy, he's cool :)

back off ! he's mine.............................

but yeah nice to have guys to speak out. Dont really care if there is an underlying reason ( eg money ) its just nice that he is supportive.

Bras are supportive.

What he is doing - is exploiting.

Which isn't really the same article of clothing.

This news article is a little late. This edited clip doesn't show all the ums and ahs and silences when these sports people had absolutely nothing in their head to put into words (though Shane Gould expressed her dismay that boofy blokes are expected to be entertainers and role-models nowdays).

The clip also deletes the question (from what I assume Pocock's accountant/PR manager who does his thinking for him) at the 34 minute mark in the complete clip from last Monday's QnA
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s3551534.htm


http://www.samesame.com.au/forum/sho...683#post578683


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Well Mark I was waiting for the clip to appear on YouTube, glad to see you're as on-the-ball as ever though ;-) xx

champion.

.. but how the fuck is he exploiting? yr more like a more like a Hair-Spliter dude.. and mark_ ya little smudge, assume? ass outta u and me mate..

Very strange that Pococks' comments could be construed as exploitative as there are many 'conservative bogans' who follow his sport that he would be at risk of alienating by his comments.

I watched the entire program and I found his responses as televised to be considered, respectful and authentic.

I also found him more articulate than all the other panellists , including Shane Gould who seems to be reading from notes most of the time.

Fantastic sportsman and top bloke. Proud to be an Aussie with guys like this to idolise

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…assume? ass outta u and me..

How clever! Can I quote you, Boss?

It'd be obvious to Blind Freddy that the guy in the unedited clip is his PR manager.

He must be sincere.

He's hot

He reminds me of Dexter.

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Very strange that Pococks' comments could be construed as exploitative as there are many 'conservative bogans' who follow his sport that he would be at risk of alienating by his comments…

I thought Rugby League was for the working-class bogans and Rugby Union was for the toffee-nosed private school boys. Not that I'd know.

Private schoolboys all got molested by brothers, now they hate homos

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This edited clip doesn't show all the ums and ahs and silences when these sports people had absolutely nothing in their head to put into words (though Shane Gould expressed her dismay that boofy blokes are expected to be entertainers and role-models nowdays).

The clip also deletes the question (from what I assume Pocock's accountant/PR manager who does his thinking for him) at the 34 minute mark in the complete clip from last Monday's QnA


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thats a bit unfair of you mark. perhaps he isn't the most accomplished public speaker in the world, but what 24 year old is? what footballer is? umms and ahs are fine with me if he's speaking the truth. at least you know he isn't just saying some previously written speech someone has given him to recte.

and yes there are people out there looking to exploit the mythical pink dollar. i don't think he is one of them. he comes across as one of those rare christians who has actually listened to the teachings of jesus that we should be nice to one another, and is acting according to those principles. that along with the fact that he is supporting fair trade causes (hardly a money making venture) as well as glbt issues. he also had a body dysmorphic disorder for much of his teenage years, so perhaps he knows what it's like to keep a secret from all those around you.

or perhaps he got relentless homophobic bullying when he was younger due to his name including the word COCK in it and vowed to get people to stop doing that when he had the opportunity?

perhaps I am biased about him though considering he is a ranga when he hasn't had too much time in the sun.....

^ I am what I am.

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he comes across as one of those rare christians who has actually listened to the teachings of jesus that we should be nice to one another, and is acting according to those principles.

id say he is one of those all-too-common christians who cherry-picks the aspects of religion that suits his life, and dispenses with the aspects of religion that dont suit his life

at least he's picking enlightened parts of his religion.

and perhaps he was always destined to work with the GLBT community.

After all his surname has the word COCK in it, and his initials are DP. what more could you ask for

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at least he's picking enlightened parts of his religion.

i think the word "enlightened" is a bit out-of-place here, considering that we are talking about a process of worshipping a magic sky fairy

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.... what more could you ask for ...]

whatever we ask for, David will be giving it to his wife Emma

too many men too little time. why not let his current girlfriend have what he's got? all that rang would go to waste otherwise!

plus he when he has children with her, he is keeping the ranga gene alive.

did you know that scientists have predicted that if things keep going the way they are that within 500 years rangas will have been bred out of existance?

that would be such a tragedy for the human race! poCOCK has a duty to keep the ranga DNA alive and well!

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i think the word "enlightened" is a bit out-of-place here, considering that we are talking about a process of worshipping a magic sky fairy

perhaps he sees Jesus as more of a philosopher or guru (instead of a deity) and is just following his instructions to be kind to others?

that's the problem with most Christians, they only follow the rules of the Old Testament, but Jesus said that the old testament was all bullshit and they should start to lead their lives differently. hence he talked about forgiveness, love, compassion etc. and not a word about homosexuals, nor even sex being bad. he hung out with prostitutes.

most christians these days are in fact Jews who happen to have a few different holidays, but don't follow the word of Jesus.

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perhaps he sees Jesus as more of a philosopher or guru (instead of a deity) and is just following his instructions to be kind to others?

You dont think its an even simpler explaination than that? Possibly that he is a christian because he blindly followed his parents religious beliefs

I don't think we should over-analyse this. It's easier for us to come out, therefore it's easier for any supporters to come out.
Where were the David Pococks 30 or 40 years ago?

http://www.samesame.com.au/forum/sho...683#post578683

I'm suggesting that he's already planning his second career. Most ex-sportsplayers try to get employment as tv presenters or "motivational speakers". I'm suggesting that Pocock's manager (on the QnA clip) is doing a Ben Cohen.

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You dont think its an even simpler explaination than that? Possibly that he is a christian because he blindly followed his parents religious beliefs

his parents religion said to support gay marriage at the begining of your captaining the Australia Rugby Union team (as opposed to to when you've finished your career) and endanger your sponsorhip deals?

i'm as atheist as you are, but you have to admit that "be kind to others" is a pretty good philosophy to live by, even if a man named Jesus was one of the historical figures that espoused it to a whole group of people.

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i'm as atheist as you are, but you have to admit that "be kind to others" is a pretty good philosophy to live by, even if a man named Jesus was one of the historical figures that espoused it to a whole group of people.

being kind to others is most certainly not something that christianity has a morgage on. There are plenty of people who manage it without the infection of christianity. In fact christains have spent a vast slice of their history being entirely unkind to vast swathes of people. We owe it as an institution, sweet fuck all.

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i'm as atheist as you are, but you have to admit that "be kind to others" is a pretty good philosophy to live by, even if a man named Jesus was one of the historical figures that espoused it to a whole group of people.

Careful. If you consider yourself an atheist then you really shouldn't be crediting religion with things that are just common sense.

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being kind to others is most certainly not something that christianity has a morgage on. .

completely agree with you on that one.

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There are plenty of people who manage it without the infection of christianity. In fact christains have spent a vast slice of their history being entirely unkind to vast swathes of people. We owe it as an institution, sweet fuck all.

not saying we owe christians anything. only that there are in fact people in the world who are true christians (as rare as they may be) who follow the philosophy Jesus espoused, and not the fake ones who are all full of hate and moralising (who are in the vast majority).

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not saying we owe christians anything. only that there are in fact people in the world who are true christians (as rare as they may be) who follow the philosophy Jesus espoused, and not the fake ones who are all full of hate and moralising (who are in the vast majority).

but who cares whether or not he is a "true" christian (which i severely doubt that it is possible for anyone in the modern era to be a "true" christian)? A true christian still attaches mystical over-tones to a deluded, lying, 2000 year old shyster, who happened to have the gift-of-the-gab. I fail to see why this is something that needs to be held up in a rosy glow.

David Pocock. A genuine person with heart. Good on him for sharing his opinions.