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Glenn, coming to Same Same for compassion and understanding was your first mistake as there are so many, so immature & so inexperienced, that they think that attacking you with harsh so called 'truths' is being cruel to be kind. Its f*&king nonsense and they have no idea of the possible consequences of their posts beyond typing and posting them.

You feel how you feel, thats it. Its not for anyone here to psychoanalyse you, and any comment in this thread without positive, constructive criticism should be ignored. No two people are the same and a lot of the people posting in this thread clearly fail to realise this and judge you based on their own experiences (which to be fair is all they have). Which is why the only people qualified to offer that sort of feedback are your friends and close family, people who know you and your story, or a professional therapist/psycologist. Not anonymous posters on here.

You should consider seeing a therapist as they can help give you the tools to change the things you can, accept the things you can't, and send your life in a different direction. They can also help you with self esteem. Its not for everyone but in the past in helped me.

Another thing to consider is approaching some of the GLTBQ Charities (or any charity for that matter) and volunteering. There are many ways you can help them and you will meet so many great social people, with positive attitudes, from all age groups, who you probably would never crossed paths with otherwise. Also, start looking into social groups or support groups, I reckon there are so many going through something similar, the GLTBQ charities may be able to assist with this.

You could find a new hobby or interest, something you have always wanted to learn or try, that you never got around to or followed up. Developing new interests is another great way to bring new, like-minded people into your life.

Another final thing to do may be to chat to your doctor, to make sure your not depressed. Its something to keep an eye on with the way you have expressed that you are feeling. Depression comes in many forms with many symptoms beyond simply feeling 'depressed', and if diagnosed, treatment could help get you started on a new path.

All the best and good luck.

And just to add to all the posts above, if you don't feel like seeing a face to face counsellor/therapist/psychologist/clinician, etc., there's always the option of calling the Gay and Lesbian Counselling Service. They are a little underfunded though (they can only take calls 5:30PM-9:30PM), and Barry O'Farrell wants to cut their funding still, but I digress. Just wanted to say that they can probably put you in touch with other services if you ever feel the need.

Just want you to remember that you're never truly alone, and that there's always someone there to listen, whether family or friends, or someone else you can just pick up the phone and call.

You will always get older and fatter and less attractive. Life is a BI@TH so get a grip: if you ain't pretty or hung or rich then you are fucked.

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You will always get older and fatter and less attractive. Life is a BI@TH so get a grip: if you ain't pretty or hung or rich then you are fucked.

You certainly are now, troll. . . . I preferred ya other name - pointzer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm 48 and starting over once again. I feel for Glenn and understand his situation. I'm not going to offer any advice, all I know is that I have to appreciate what I have right now. I don't have any gay friends at all...NONE! Not an intentional decision, it just hasn't worked out that way. I have three wonderful children that I love very much from a previous marriage. I have pets, freedom, employment and dreams just like I used to have when I was a kid.

All I know is that finding someone at this stage of my life is going to be difficult and perhaps I never will. I don't really mind. It really doesn't seem to work out for me in the relationship department. God knows I've tried hard enough. And another thing that I know is that happiness isn't about to happen. It's here, right now. I have to be happy with where I am and who I am. End of the story.

Glenn, I wish that your dreams would come true. You have far more chance of it happening to you living in the city. I live in rural Victoria with 5 cats, a dog and my prized pedigree poultry. I can't imagine anyone finding that an attractive option..can you? LOL

Find some peace in your heart and be happy. The answer is not in any seedy bar or sauna. It's right there, in your heart. xx

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I live in rural Victoria with 5 cats, a dog and my prized pedigree poultry. I can't imagine anyone finding that an attractive option..can you? LOL xx

i can

just spent @ week in bathurst for work and was reminded how much i luv th country

give me rural - even remote - over th city any day

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i can

just spent @ week in bathurst for work and was reminded how much i luv th country

give me rural - even remote - over th city any day

well you move to the country , get some chickens , grow fresh produce and I will visit every 2nd weekend to stock up

I came from the country and still dont have the urge to go back yet/at all. Love the City and our area Sneakos.

I'm so busy.. help!

When I was single and looking in my mid 40's, I did not once consider hanging out by myself in gay bars, the beat, or a sauna. I would not expect to find either a partner or to make friends in any of those beats - I would expect to find mr right now, nothing more. Which is fine is that is what you are looking for.
But you seem to want to find friends, or a relationship - and you are looking in all the wrong places -
It it revolves around sex or alcohol, it will attract those who are seeking just that.
There are numerous activities that involve gay people that are not all about sex.
gay bowls, gay footy, gay chorus, gay walking/hiking/running groups, etc.etc.
the list is pretty much endless. There are gay religious groups. And any number of educational type activities - learning a new language, learning to paint, learning to cook, etc. that may not lead to finding gay friends, but I enjoy my straight friends as much as my gay ones... And then of course there are the internet dating (not instant sex - i.e. grinder) sites.
If you put up a non sexual profile , fully clothed, and are somewhat specific about what you are looking for, I can not imagine that it would not generate some response from others seeking the same thing.
You have to be in it to win it - and the prize available depends on the contest you enter - you want to win an instant blow job, then buy a ticket to the sauna. You want to win friends and make new mates, then cast your net a little wider than bars and sex venues.

I think that our attitude to ageing is interesting.

On one hand, turning 40 really freaked me out. It made me feel like a large portion of my life was over and that all the best times were behind me. I knew that this was a stupid way to think, but I couldn't shake it.

When I looked back upon my life. I couldn't see any achievements. All I could see were failures- and somehow they seemed more pronounced than ever before.

But - as it came- it went.

Most of the time, I am positive about getting older. It means that I am a survivor who has survived some really crazy shit. Not just the world, but also myself. Also- Im more confident and more comfortable in myself. I seem to have lost all the neuroses I carried as a younger man. All that ridiculous anxiety over things that never mattered.

Make some changes. Try some new things. Make new friends.

Life is as limited as the limitations you choose to impose upon it.