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I was researching my family tree & turns out I have a great-great-great-uncle, Thomas Edwin Bell who was transported to the colony of New South Wales for 'lewd conduct unbecoming of an English gentleman'. In other words, sodomy (ie gay sex). I obtained a copy of his signature through accessing court file transcripts (expensive, but worth it) from the UK & his penmanship resembles mine. Freaky!

He was convicted as a criminal for being gay, later married a chick named Sarah & had 5 kids, settled in Cooma, NSW, bought a pub & was quite a successful publican.

Any gay criminals in your family tree?

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I bet your great-great-great-uncle isn't as pretty as my great-uncle-in-law!
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He looked like Jack Nicholson, the American actor; but quite portly with a mole above his lip. Yes, yours is prettier. Bum. lol
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I have never heard of the name 'Edwin' before. Edwin? Eck! lol I'll google search it's meaning....
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Edwin



Meaning:


Prosperous friend.

Origin: Old English

Alternatives: Edwyn, Ed, Eddie.

Nicknames: Ed, Eddie, Eddy.
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I think one on my grandfather's side was (Thomas Cooke, I think the name was). He was pretty much a petty criminal, once he was sent out here he managed to own a few bars and stuff and ended up buying the land in Surry Hills around about where I'm living now.

Unfortunately, he didn't pass on the land through the family, so I still have to pay rent.
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My great-great-great uncle's middle name means: prosperous friend.
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I think one on my grandfather's side was (Thomas Cooke, I think the name was). He was pretty much a petty criminal, once he was sent out here he managed to own a few bars and stuff and ended up buying the land in Surry Hills around about where I'm living now.

Unfortunately, he didn't pass on the land through the family, so I still have to pay rent.

That is SO cool. Living in the same neighbourhood today as your forefathers did at least a century ago.
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Some might see living in the same neighbourhood as your forefathers' as stagnance.
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Some might see living in the same neighbourhood as your forefathers' as stagnance.

No,honouring your dynastic inheritance & respecting ancestor ties to the community! lol
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Some might see living in the same neighbourhood as your forefathers' as stagnance.

Hahaha, considering before then I was pretty sure most of my heritage was dutch/german, it's a slightly more tangible connection to my history.
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Hahaha, considering before then I was pretty sure most of my heritage was dutch/german, it's a slightly more tangible connection to my history.

You may want to look up Dirk der Gramberg or Hans Hartog as a possible descendant or Manfred Junge, did Thomas Cooke emigrate from London?...both were on the same fleet as my great-great-great uncle, Thomas. When you pay a flat fee to trace your family tree you get lots of information....

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I have some geneaological experience.

The most important things to do are
1. Search from what you know towards what you don't.
2. Keep notes and make a chart
3. Start at the State Library
4. Only pay money to American sites if you are desperate.
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My grandfather migrated from Greece after the war so I am sure he liked it up the bum.
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I have met three Greeks who BOASTED they ate nettles back home as a vegetable and that their house had an earth floor.
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It wouldn't surprise me .. The Greek side of my family are all weirdos.
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My grandfather migrated from Greece after the war so I am sure he liked it up the bum.

Be proud of your Greek heritage.
Goats.
Fetta cheese.
Democracy.
The world can not function without people power & dairy products!
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For instance, my grandfather hates my mum because she was white yet he married an Australian when he moved here ... errrr, knob
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I have to go to bed but if I had more energy I would quibble that Democracy as we have it in NSW Is NOT 'people power'.
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For instance, my grandfather hates my mum because she was white yet he married an Australian when he moved here ... errrr, knob

Rent the Aussie movie 'Head On' starring Alex Dimitriades.
Superb.
The best Aussie movie ever made!
Make your grandfather watch it!
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I already own it and my grandfather is dead.
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Oh, sorry. In that case, watch the movie by yourself & bury a note of the movies' critique in front of his tombstone....he'll get the message...lol
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LOL.

My parents split when I was a year old so I never really had much to do with Dad's side.

It never really phased me so I'll save the energy.
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Oh, now I feel like shit (scatta muri in Greek) lol....never mind, barrabin, keep well & live in the moment...
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Aw, don't feel bad !!

You have definitely not brought up any raw emotions.

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Good. Because 'Head On' inspires me, it doesn't make me sad! lol
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This film proved to me that not all Australian cinema is shit.

Also - Alex Dimitriades was pretty hot in that film.
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good for you ash!

i've always wanted to research my family.

there just never seems to be enough time.
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Dad's side is very British. Upstart stiff upper lip kinda stuff.
Never knew there was a 'deviant' in the family...lol
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