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Originally Posted by local_warming

you mean by prolonging it, like this??

aha!

I wrote to the four women who were wrongfully imprisoned for this outrage. The NJ4 (New Jersey 4) are the focus of a few LGBTIQ groups and collectives in the US. Seems as if it is quite easy to lock up Queer Women of Colour in the US isn't it. Much like it is to kill a Transwoman of Colour in the US and get away with it (referring to the case of Duanna Johnson[RIP]).

http://www.fiercenyc.org/index.php?s=128
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_Four
http://www.amyewinter.net/nj4/
http://freenj4.wordpress.com/
http://www.workers.org/2007/us/nj4-0628/
http://www.racewire.org/archives/200...et_11_y_1.html

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Originally Posted by local_warming

violent thoughts??? i was gonna give you my seat on the bus, i swear! id just had a really tiring day at work

ahahaha xDDD. oh no...that wouldn't piss me off. the shrieking bimbos and douchebags on trains do though. uurgh i'd beat them with a stick if i could. but i can't. damn.

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Originally Posted by pho3nixphir3

ahahaha xDDD. oh no...that wouldn't piss me off. the shrieking bimbos and douchebags on trains do though. uurgh i'd beat them with a stick if i could. but i can't. damn.

im not sure about that - it sounds like the next beating may be imminent - watch out shrieking bimbos, AKA schoolgirls!

Taken from the link below:

http://www.amyewinter.net/nj4/story.html

In the summer of 2006, seven young Black lesbians from New Jersey—Patreese Johnson, Renata Hill, Venice Brown, Terrain Dandridge, Chenese Loyal, Lania Daniels, and Khamysha Coates—were hanging out on the pier in New York City's West Village when Dwayne Buckle, a man selling DVDs on the street, sexually propositioned Patreese. Refusing to take no for an answer, he followed them down the street, insulting and threatening them: “I’ll **** you straight, sweetheart!”

It is important to understand that all seven women knew of another young woman named Sakia Gunn, who had been stabbed to death under very similar circumstances—by a pair of highly aggressive, verbally abusive male strangers. At least some of the seven had known Sakia personally.

During the resulting confrontation, Buckle first spat in Renata’s face and threw his lit cigarette at her, then he yanked another’s hair, pulling her towards him, and then began strangling Renata. A fight broke out, during which Patreese Johnson, 4 feet 11 inches tall and 95 pounds, produced a small knife from her bag to stop Buckle from choking her friend—a knife she carried to protect herself when she came home alone from her late-night job.

Two male onlookers, one of whom had a knife, ran over to physically deal with Buckle in order to help the women. Buckle, who ended up hospitalized for five days with stomach and liver lacerations, initially reported on at least two occasions that the men—not the women—had attacked him. What’s more, Patreese’s knife was never tested for DNA, the men who beat Buckle were never questioned by police, and the whole incident was captured on surveillance video. Yet the women ended up on trial for attempted murder. Dwayne Buckle testified against them.

The media coverage was savage, calling the women such things as a “wolf pack of lesbians.” The pro bono lawyers for the young lesbians would later have to buy the public record of the case since the judge, Edward J. McLaughlin (who openly taunted and expressed contempt for the women in front of the jury all throughout the trial), would not release it. As of late August 2007, the defense team still didn’t have a copy of the security camera video footage. And after the better part of one year spent sitting in jail, four of the seven women were sentenced in June 2007—reportedly by an all-white jury of mostly women—to jail terms ranging from 3 1/2 to 11 years. The oldest of the women was 24, and two of them are mothers of small children.

There is a documentary out on it now call "The Fire This Time"

oh and for the record Patreese Johnson is still behind bars and is due out in 2015

http://thefirethistimethefilm.com/

that would make a good movie

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Originally Posted by rudeboy86

Taken from the link below:

http://www.amyewinter.net/nj4/story.html

In the summer of 2006, seven young Black lesbians from New Jersey—Patreese Johnson, Renata Hill, Venice Brown, Terrain Dandridge, Chenese Loyal, Lania Daniels, and Khamysha Coates—were hanging out on the pier in New York City's West Village when Dwayne Buckle, a man selling DVDs on the street, sexually propositioned Patreese. Refusing to take no for an answer, he followed them down the street, insulting and threatening them: “I’ll **** you straight, sweetheart!”

It is important to understand that all seven women knew of another young woman named Sakia Gunn, who had been stabbed to death under very similar circumstances—by a pair of highly aggressive, verbally abusive male strangers. At least some of the seven had known Sakia personally.

During the resulting confrontation, Buckle first spat in Renata’s face and threw his lit cigarette at her, then he yanked another’s hair, pulling her towards him, and then began strangling Renata. A fight broke out, during which Patreese Johnson, 4 feet 11 inches tall and 95 pounds, produced a small knife from her bag to stop Buckle from choking her friend—a knife she carried to protect herself when she came home alone from her late-night job.

Two male onlookers, one of whom had a knife, ran over to physically deal with Buckle in order to help the women. Buckle, who ended up hospitalized for five days with stomach and liver lacerations, initially reported on at least two occasions that the men—not the women—had attacked him. What’s more, Patreese’s knife was never tested for DNA, the men who beat Buckle were never questioned by police, and the whole incident was captured on surveillance video. Yet the women ended up on trial for attempted murder. Dwayne Buckle testified against them.

The media coverage was savage, calling the women such things as a “wolf pack of lesbians.” The pro bono lawyers for the young lesbians would later have to buy the public record of the case since the judge, Edward J. McLaughlin (who openly taunted and expressed contempt for the women in front of the jury all throughout the trial), would not release it. As of late August 2007, the defense team still didn’t have a copy of the security camera video footage. And after the better part of one year spent sitting in jail, four of the seven women were sentenced in June 2007—reportedly by an all-white jury of mostly women—to jail terms ranging from 3 1/2 to 11 years. The oldest of the women was 24, and two of them are mothers of small children.

why are so many people carrying knives, for fuck sake!

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Originally Posted by local_warming

why are so many people carrying knives, for fuck sake!

It happened in New York City...if I was a Black Queer Woman having to walk home from a shift work job at night in New York City I would be carrying something sharp too...considering that these women had a friend who was killed in a similar situation (Sakia Gunn) prior to the incident in question I don't blame them at all for their state of hypervigilance. If you have experienced abuse or oppression of any sort for a long period of time and your relatives and friends have been in the same situation there is a vibe of general distrust and hypervigilance.

whilst i dont condone glassing, he had it coming.

I was violently attacked by 5 lebonese guys in the CBD with people everywhere. Not one person offered to help me and my friend (also trans). I am resined if it ever happened again I'd be ready and it wouldn't be pretty. I will never hesitate again to defend myself in what ever way I see will have maximum impact on the perps involved.

whatever happened to mace

This is why I always carry a ballpoint pen on me...good for writing things down but it can be used defensively in the right situation, once again it proves that the pen is mightier than the sword.

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Originally Posted by rudeboy86

This is why I always carry a ballpoint pen on me...good for writing things down but it can be used defensively in the right situation, once again it proves that the pen is mightier than the sword.

your a cack rude boy, we need you here in Sydney

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Originally Posted by crazzymikey

your a cack rude boy, we need you here in Sydney

As much as I enjoyed Newtown and Enmore when I was there last time (thanks for taking me around town and letting me stay at your place Camiseta) I don't think I could ever get used to Sydney...I like the foul weather and live music spots of Melbourne too much.

I shall return though for hopefully a half-week dose of the place...just don't know when.

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Originally Posted by rudeboy86

As much as I enjoyed Newtown and Enmore when I was there last time (thanks for taking me around town and letting me stay at your place Camiseta) I don't think I could ever get used to Sydney...I like the foul weather and live music spots of Melbourne too much.

I shall return though for hopefully a half-week dose of the place...just don't know when.

make sure it falls on our same same meet here

foul weather? live music spots? i'm there =D

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Originally Posted by crazzymikey

whatever happened to mace

Mace was superceded!

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Originally Posted by guru_g

Mace was superceded!

do they come in pink or matching colors?

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Originally Posted by crazzymikey

do they come in pink or matching colours?

Unfortunately yes!

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Originally Posted by guru_g

Unfortunately yes!

let me guess. this one is marketed for women?

i can never understand why they release all these pink versions of things. Pink laptops, pink PS3's and now pink tazers!!

Death by fashion?

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Originally Posted by JayTee

let me guess. this one is marketed for women?

i can never understand why they release all these pink versions of things. Pink laptops, pink PS3's and now pink tazers!!

Or gay men. I don't know either. Pink is a boring bland colour.

and it doesn't make the device work any different!!

its just like how red sports cars are seen as being somehow better.

maybe it's just me, but i just look at the practicalities. PS3's are better than Xboxes, Tasers are better than mace - no matter what colour they come in!

a lot of girls like to match their phones and accessories with their bags or what they are wearing.

How hard is it to get pepper spray? isn't that the new mace?

Impulse works OK

but I much rather a brick in a bag and some cable ties

I still think the glass bottle would have been most effective.

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