I am not transgender so I dont understand the torment that these people go through - but I think that gay jokes about me are funny - and I can see the funny side when done in jest with me. I think people can be a little over-sensitive on some issues like this.

i mean no disrespect whatsoever but i just think some people just need to lighten up and stop taking everything so seriously and see the humour in things.
I have never been offended by the show. In fact, i love the gay jokes.

Once again, someone from the GLTB IFHSGFD (or whatever we're calling ourself today) is upset over a joke. No disrepect, but lighten up!

mmm i have always found that family guy is not offensive (it may tip toe that line but it never crosses)

and im not transgender or have seen the whole epp but that clip didn't have anything i would consider offencive

I laughed... does that make me a bad person??

wow.. someone is offended by Family Guy.. who would have thought?

oh he BURNED MEG- ive seen the whole episode, and if anything, at the end it becomes an understanding of someone's happiness. didn't think it was that bad, south park has done worse with Mr/Mrs Garrison

I think the episode crossed the line at a few points - but for the most part was respectful and fairly well worded.

Was on both sides of the fence really.

I haven't seen it yet? But so far I'm enjoying the comments.

anyone who takes offence to this is taking it to seriously and taking it way out of context. The show family guy is a comedy and Seth Macfarlane is known for his work (outside the show) towards gay rights, Now if it was K-Rudd or someone like that making these comments then people would be justified in getting the shits, but Family Guy is about brainless entertainment. Besides its pretty shit nowadays anyway

So what if it was offensive? That the point of comedy.

Despite what people may think, comedy is always about making fun of someone. Live with it.

South Park is way more offensive and thats why I love it. Also why should 1 group be exempt from ridicule? Its just like the whole moron Muslims over again, or the Scientologists. Trannies will be insulted and continued to be insulted and I will continue to laugh at their expense.

Shazzboy, if you think the purpose of comedy is to offend I would hate to be your friend. The purpose of comedy is to make people laugh and feel better about life. You can choose to do all kinds of other things with it, but offending people is an occasional byproduct, not its purpose.

OT, I haven't seen all of the episode in question, but it strikes me that Brian is a DOG. If a dog is offended by having had sex with someone who is tg, just maybe that is the joke? Personally I've never been offended by anything FG, or even South Park, has said about anything. These are intelligent shows that require you to engage your brain and not take things out of context, something most of those who scream offence summarily fail to do.

tee hee.......oh family guy.......BEST EPISODE EVAR!

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Shazzboy, if you think the purpose of comedy is to offend I would hate to be your friend. The purpose of comedy is to make people laugh and feel better about life. You can choose to do all kinds of other things with it, but offending people is an occasional byproduct, not its purpose.

OT, I haven't seen all of the episode in question, but it strikes me that Brian is a DOG. If a dog is offended by having had sex with someone who is tg, just maybe that is the joke? Personally I've never been offended by anything FG, or even South Park, has said about anything. These are intelligent shows that require you to engage your brain and not take things out of context, something most of those who scream offence summarily fail to do.

By ragging the shit out of someone else. God, there are so many weak pansies on this website.

What you all wear body armour when you climb a tree?

I dunno, how do you introduce the subject matter to characters like that and expect them to react any different. I found the whole episode quite surreal, it really just was a punchline pay off episode, but really I don't think in retrospect the ends justified the means. I think there was a lot of attempts to parody filmic conventions from an english speaking western ideal, but they weren't obvious enough and perhaps I am even grasping at straws drawing parallels between movies such as Tootsie and Mrs Doubtfire which would formulate Peter Griffin's ideologies on transgender. I think the underlying offensive message of the episode is "Trannies... even dogs throw up at the thought of sex with them", that's not a very nice message to put out there.

I guess they were just grasping at straws for storylines seeing as it is the 8th season and all.

Though it's still not as offensive/damaging as the entire run of Friends, and the Storylines surrounding the Ross Geller and Chandler Bing characters, if you want to demonise a television series for a blanket discrimination of alternative gendered individuals look no further.

i wouldn't be *furious*- not saying that i can easily put myself into a transperson's shoes. but i'm guessing i wouldn't be furious, and acknowledge that peter and lois's inappropriate giggling were part of a depiction of a bad attitude. at most it could be unhelpful and irritating.

but most of the rest of the clip was alright, kinda decent.

Who watches family guy for political correctness anyway

didn't really find anything offensive with the clip, I had a giggle. The throwing up was obviously a Crying Game reaction.

As for you shazz, is that how you really feel. Sounds like you have a transgender chip on your shoulder. It seems to me that the only thing transphobic on this thread is you.

There are support groups out there for people like you.

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. Trannies will be insulted and continued to be insulted and I will continue to laugh at their expense.

I went online and watched the whole episode courtesy of Crazzymikey to formulate my above opinions. As I said it is an accurate depiction of how the characters in the show would react to transgendered individuals.

This episode provided much needed visability for the transgender community because there is like zero transgender people on tv even though it is an animated comedy.

Imagine if a dog projectile vomited for over a minute if he found he'd had sex with an Aboriginal "passing for white".

Then someone else throwing out food that had been prepared by an "Abo". Someone else remarking in whether they should be registered like sex offenders or dogs.

Edgy Humour? "Racism" with scare quotes? Or actual, you know, Racism? The real deal.

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Imagine if a dog projectile vomited for over a minute if he found he'd had sex with an Aboriginal "passing for white".

Then someone else throwing out food that had been prepared by an "Abo". Someone else remarking in whether they should be registered like sex offenders or dogs.

Edgy Humour? "Racism" with scare quotes? Or actual, you know, Racism? The real deal.

just a reflection: abo's not cool but calling someone's a fat arse is alright coz fat ppl have to have bubbly personalities.

who decides what's fun and what's racism/discrimination? would you say it's when you're born with it, no one can crack a joke about it? but then you kinda lose the power of humour which is bringing ppl closer together coz when using humour, ppl have to learn to lighten up, put what is being said into perspective, a very important social skill.

or something like this.

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comedy is always about making fun of someone.

You want to go make fun of marginalised groups of people go for it but it will earn you the same amount of respect as bashing up a homeless person and setting them on fire. When there is already discrimination/oppression of certain groups by society like the Trans community, comedy at their expense just becomes a reinforcement of the perceived norm...just because everybody else goes with it doesn't mean it's right.

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Trannies will be insulted and continued to be insulted and I will continue to laugh at their expense.

Remind me to laugh my arse off at you when you come on here disclosing being a victim of Gay bashing...I have no fucking sympathy for pricks like you in the Queer community. It's as if you are not oppressed enough as it is that you have to go and find somebody else who is just as marginalised and do the same to them...fucking low.

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This episode provided much needed visability for the transgender community because there is like zero transgender people on tv even though it is an animated comedy.

Bullshit...visibility is a good thing but if it has to be at the cost of being openly ridiculed or patronised then it is a crock of shit.

I have the same attitude to shows like Queer-Eye, yeah there is visibility but it still hits home the point that Gay men (and women*) will only ever be good as the page-boys/help/staff or even that wacky eccentric co-worker but they are not allowed to be a sexual being like their hetero counterparts.

I often wonder if Shazzboy is a disgruntled tranny wanna be? Kind of reminds me of the brianbear days.

Transsexuals have been treated the same as everything else that has appeared on family guy and southpark. That's how they can get away with it, they treat everything equally.

yes this is true^

however I might add that transgender folk have had their share of being the butt of jokes since forever. I am sure some TG people will take offence and to keep ridiculing people who have been traditionally ridiculed for being who they are doesn't make things any better.

having said that, shows such as Family Guy are funny because nobody is safe.