A phobia is a fear of something -
Claustrophobia - Fear of confined spaces.
Agoraphobia - Fear of open spaces. Fear of leaving a safe place.
Genophobia - Fear of sex.
So Homophobia is a fear of homosexuality or of becoming homosexual.

Straights arent frightened of homosexuals, or of becoming a homosexual, but it seems like gays are, when I read stuff about "coming out", and the ones who dont come out because they are afraid of what people will say or think about them, and how theyll be treated when their parents and friends find out about their sexual orientation.

Accusing heterosexuals of "homophobic behavior" doesn't make sense at all does it.
Homophobia is something that afflicts gays in my opinion - the fear that they are different, and the fear they wont be accepted.

kiss my lovely ass

You are quite a slow learner arent you tricky.
Arachnophobia is a fear of spiders, not of becoming one.
Why would heterosexuals be frightened by homosexuals, or of becoming a homosexual?
But are homosexuals frightened of what they are? Seems to me most are.

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A phobia is a fear of something -
Claustrophobia - Fear of confined spaces.
Agoraphobia - Fear of open spaces. Fear of leaving a safe place.
Genophobia - Fear of sex.
So Homophobia is a fear of homosexuality or of becoming homosexual.

Straights arent frightened of homosexuals, or of becoming a homosexual, but it seems like gays are, when I read stuff about "coming out", and the ones who dont come out because they are afraid of what people will say or think about them, and how theyll be treated when their parents and friends find out about their sexual orientation.

Accusing heterosexuals of "homophobic behavior" doesn't make sense at all does it.
Homophobia is something that afflicts gays in my opinion - the fear that they are different, and the fear they wont be accepted.

Straights arent frightened of homosexuals ? then why are there so many bashings/
murders ?

But it seems gays are ? are what frightened of being homosexual ? I am sure there are those that are frightened of what they are but that doesnt mean you can say all gays are the same way.

I found these versions -

Homophobia is a range of negative attitudes and feelings towards lesbian, gay, bisexual, queer, and in some cases transgender and intersex people.

Definitions refer variably to antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, and irrational fear.[1][2][3] Homophobia is observable in critical and hostile behavior such as discrimination[1][2] and violence on the basis of a perceived non-heterosexual orientation. In a 1998 address, author, activist, and civil rights leader Coretta Scott King stated that "Homophobia is like racism and anti Semitism and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and personhood.

So fear is only 1 definition.

My point is, phobia, in almost every case, the definition of phobia is "fear of"
http://phobialist.com/
So as you state, feelings of non-homosexuals towards gays is not usually a "fear", therefor using the term homophobia to describe aggressive, or discriminatory behavior towards homosexuals is wrong.
But it does seem a lot of gays are frightened or worried that they are homosexally inclined, and so the term homophobia should apply only when used to describe a homosexuals behavior.

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My point is, phobia, in almost every case, the definition of phobia is "fear of"
http://phobialist.com/
So as you state, feelings of non-homosexuals towards gays is not usually a "fear", therefor using the term homophobia to describe aggressive, or discriminatory behavior towards homosexuals is wrong.
But it does seem a lot of gays are frightened or worried that they are homosexally inclined, and so the term homophobia should apply only when used to describe a homosexuals behavior.

" But it does seem a lot of gays are frightened"

your proof ? where are you getting your statistics ?

I can see you point but have only come across 1 person from memory that was
not happy about being gay.

claude dude why don't you come suck my cock i'm sure you'll stop that nonsense once you're satisfied with my man-juice....

Geez Claude, after all the time you've been quiet and this is the best you can come up with? The old "straights aren't afraid of gays so why is it called a phobia" thing has been done to death. Can't you come up with something original.

Oh, hang on a minute, just remembered the standard of your previous posts....you probably can't.

Oh do we really have to do this again. Mama is extremely hungover at the moment and cant really be dealing with this in great depth at the moment - so she will keep it simple. The roots for negative emotions towards anything is usually fear. In Homophobia it could be a fear of something you dont understand, a fear of your personal values being challenged, a fear of being labeled a "sympathizer" etc. This leads to feelings of frustration and not being in control which then leads to anger and dislike. Its basic human behavior

oh claude please stop

seriously. was'nt this fool, claude, banned a while ago??

i ate some of my popsicle house

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ha ha perfect

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seriously. was'nt this fool, claude, banned a while ago??

It was a four-week ban.

he just needs a big juicy cock to suck.

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In Homophobia it could be a fear of something you dont understand, a fear of your personal values being challenged, a fear of being labeled a "sympathizer" etc. This leads to feelings of frustration and not being in control which then leads to anger and dislike. Its basic human behavior.

That makes some sort of sense Mama tho I dont know if "fear" is the right word. Maybe "reaction" against seeing something that we know isnt natural, and I think thats why gays suffer from homophobia more than straight people. They know deep down that being gay is going against nature. How many times have you read "I knew something was WRONG because I was attracted to the same sex person. I felt uncomfortable with myself."
There's a lot a bullshit and bravado that comes from some of the hardliners here, but that's all it is, then trying to pretend they got a handle on things.
dkg trys to act like she's cool but s-he is so angry inside s-he explodes at the drop of a pin, and always imagines someone is after her because s-he's a tranny.

There is a couple of you who are level headed and debate subjects with a cool head, but theres others that are just abusive that dont add any value, and wysiwyg_syd gets 10/10 for humor.

If this homophobia thing has been done to death before then the only reason it got resurrected is because the press needs to be educated and realize the homophobes in the main, are the homosexuals.
A gay friend of mine said to me "God what I wouldnt give to have a normal life." To me, thats homophobic.

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That makes some sort of sense Mama tho I dont know if "fear" is the right word. Maybe "reaction" against seeing something that we know isnt natural, and I think thats why gays suffer from homophobia more than straight people. They know deep down that being gay is going against nature. How many times have you read "I knew something was WRONG because I was attracted to the same sex person. I felt uncomfortable with myself."

Being gay is natural.
natural- existing in or in conformity with nature or the observable world; neither supernatural nor magical; "a perfectly natural explanation"

It is present in nature, observable in dozens of other animal species.
It has always been present. People who are uncomfortable with their own 'gayness' are like that because of the society they live in tells them it's not okay, or that they are different, strange. That doesn't mean its true. Society as a whole is often wrong, en masse.

I'm not going to write a history of 'teh gays' for you because I'm certain you already know this, and you are just trolling, but I wish you wouldn't waste your time doing it.

No, I'm not "trolling (or trawling)" trina.
These claims that homosexual behavior in animals is "natural" dont hold any substance. Humans have an IQ, a mentality, and a conscience a long way above the animal kingdom. Our closest comparisons are chimps, and they can only achieve a mental capability of a 6 year old human being.
Dolphins and whales, dogs and cats - they don't have the same superior intellect and responsibility us humans have got.

Homosexuality is the odd one out, its not the norm.

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It has always been present.

So have cancerous cells, but usually our immune system keeps them in check to maintain a healthy body.

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Society as a whole is often wrong, en masse.

You mean "Everyone and everything else is wrong except for me." ?

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No, I'm not "trolling (or trawling)" trina.
These claims that homosexual behavior in animals is "natural" dont hold any substance. Humans have an IQ, a mentality, and a conscience a long way above the animal kingdom. Our closest comparisons are chimps, and they can only achieve a mental capability of a 6 year old human being.
Dolphins and whales, dogs and cats - they don't have the same superior intellect and responsibility us humans have got.

What does any of that have to do with being gay? Why do we have a responsibility to not be gay? And, FYI, we are part of the animal kingdom. Since being gay doesn't hurt anyone, why do we have some sort of moral obligation not to follow our natural instincts and seek our same-sex mates, if that is what we want?

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Homosexuality is the odd one out, its not the norm.

Homosexuality is rare yes. We are a minority. That doesn't make us unnatural.

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You mean "Everyone and everything else is wrong except for me." ?

Actually I think that is what you mean.

Society was wrong when it as a whole believed the sun revolved around the earth.
Society was wrong when it believed it was okay to enslave black people as they weren't really human anyway.

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Why do we have a responsibility to not be gay?

Because gays cannot procreate. Down to basics, species are divided into male and female chromosomes (in some cases, some organisms can be assexual, or transsexual, but this doesnt occur in nature, in the human species).l The innate basic natural responsibility of ALL organisms is to procreate to survive.

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being gay doesn't hurt anyone

Being "gay" doesnt help anyone. It hurts Nature. If Nature intended it's living objects to be born gay, it would be siging it's own death warrant. A man cant produce an offspring by fucking another man.
A woman cant get pregnant if another woman has homosexual sex with her.

Minorities dont equate to unnaturality.
Homosexuality does.

I never knew society when it believed the sun revolved around the earth.
I never knew society when it was okay to enslave black people as they weren't really human.

But BASIC fundamentals NEVER change.
Male + male can NEVER produce successors to the human race.
Female + female can NEVER produce successors to the human race.

If you believe homosexuality is normal you better look at a blank page of nothingness cause thats where your headed. Then again a lot of gays might be happy to see that because they only care about their own sex organs and the pleasure they get from them.

right! you are beyond offensive, I vote that this moron gets banned!

Eat and breath REALITY crazzymikey.
Well my reality.
You can run but you cant hide.

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Because gays cannot procreate. Down to basics, species are divided into male and female chromosomes (in some cases, some organisms can be assexual, or transsexual, but this doesnt occur in nature, in the human species).
The innate basic natural responsibility of ALL organisms is to procreate to survive.

Some animals, like homo sapiens, are born with different combinations than XY and XX.

But gays can procreate. Not with each other, but they aren't magically sterilised by their sexual preference. The fact that some gay couples/people choose not to is no different from a straight couple who choose not to have children.
And in an overpopulated world, more people having children really isn't necessary.

Your arguments rely on the premise that if more people 'catch' homosexuality the human population will die out.
That premise has no basis in reality. We make up 10% of the population according to most surveys.

Being gay is an innate fact, not something we choose out of a selfish desire to see the human race die out.

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Minorities dont equate to unnaturality.
Homosexuality does.

Why? I've given you reasons why homosexuality is natural. Give me some, convince me that homosexuality is unnatural. I doubt you can, but try.

Claude,

Are you gay?

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Claude,

Are you gay?

No - he's homophobic!

claude is a cocksucking gay, my gaydar can sense it.

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claude is a cocksucking gay, my gaydar can sense it.

yes he needs to keep a fat one up him

Thanks for the compliments guys and gays - no I'm not gay but I'm flattered to think I can bond with you like one of your own.

Yes trina, "gays" are probably capable of procreating if they ever got the urge to try it on with the opposite sex, but because they are gay they wont will they.
I dont claim gays "catch" homosexuality. A very very small minority are born as "confused gender" - I dont think theres any denying that, but its nothing like 10%.

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Being gay is an innate fact, not something we choose out of a selfish desire

I disagree. I think environment, choice, and personal desire are the REAL determinants in the final cut.

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Some animals, like homo sapiens, are born with different combinations than XY and XX.

Yes, but those animals dont have the same intellectual and moral reasoning capacity we humans (well, most of us) have.
Why is homosexuality UNnatural? Because if it were "natural" you and I wouldnt be here discussing this now.
Same sex partners in the human species, are physically incapable of reproducing.

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