It is important to not mislead the public. Rights related to one's sexual orientation and rights related to one's gender are two very different matters. Lumping Trans* rights in with categories designated as "Gay" are inaccurate and do not represent the issues the Trans* community faces. Please make this distinction on your web site, and encourage other sites that do this to do the same, it is only fair to represent people accurately.
I identify as Bisexual, when I'm referring to or otherwise talking about my sexuality, I may be using my "Gay" voice. However, when talking about my gender, there is nothing "Gay" about it, I am speaking about being Trans*, they are both very different aspects of who we are as people and each of them have very different implications.
Don't go trying to segregate yourselves from the 'queer' banner. 'QUEER' is not about sexual preference or orientation; it is about the freedom to BE.
Under the 'queer' banner you are my brothers and sisters... under the 'trans' banner you make me your opposition out of principle. Because I am not trans and I couldn't POSSIBLY know what you guys go through... no matter how accepting and comfortable I am with trans people.
'We're different so treat us the same' is an absolutely ridiculous thing to ask people to do. I would discourage it, not encourage it.
Last edited by atomic-teddy: 18th April 2012 at 01:41 PM
Agreed gender identity is totally different from sexual orientation but I also think that transpeople have a queered sexual identity. Pre transition transwoman has sex with a guy....it's sort of gay sex...yes I know it's not, but no one knows that except perhaps (and it is perhaps) for the pre transition transwoman. After transition and srs it's definitely and legally a hetero engagement. Same pre transition transwoman has sex with a woman.....it's legally hetero and everyone will take it as that. After transition and SRS is it lesbian sex? I know it can be *OMG scissors rule....giant grin* but if the previous partner was a straight woman and sticks around is it lesbian sex? And for those transitioning without the op? Even if we self identify as straight, lesbian or bi, at some stage in our gender transformation and sexual experience we will be queering some of our relationships. These are some of the issues we do face alone ( and there are many more). However some of the experiences are similar....coming out to parents, friends etc....same experience except we have nowhere to hide it. We have to come out at work & everywhere else. Discrimination...similar....tragically some of it (along with the bi's and q's) from the G&L community. Gay marriage? An issue if you wish to maintain your updated birth certificate and remain married to the partner of your choice or if you are unmarried trans lesbian. (Or unmarried gay trans guy). So you're right.....gender identity is definitely not sexual identity and comes with a large swag of extra baggage but at some stage our sexuality is queer enough to put us under the GLBTIQ banner. And frankly, our glorious public can't tell the difference anyway.......a source of continual frustration for us all. Separating to make the distinction, given our similarities, makes us all weaker. And look, I know the temptation you are feeling. I spent the last three weeks battling the charming ladies of the radfem hub. And yes I get the misogyny (and transmisogyny) we both have to deal with from other quarters too. Ah f*** it all, maybe we should all just go stealth lol.
My point isn't even sexual, its strategic. Your friends and family who support you aside... holding the queer banner will automatically give you brothers and sisters who will support you.
I know that trans people are very misunderstood under the banner still, but we all are. I find it hard to find people who believe it is a realistic expectation to have a partner who won't sleep with other people. Fighting with gay men because they don't believe that queer people should be ALLOWED to love.