I really do look down on them.

One of the women at work who sits next to me has just come back from having a baby. Nothing else in the world matters anymore, and its pointless talking to her about anything else other than baby stuff. I think she may have had a brain before she got knocked up, but you wouldn't know it now.
She spends half her time saying how wonderful her child is (and how useless her fiance is), and the other half complaining about how difficult it is to be a Mother.

The final straw came yesterday when she was telling me about the amazing night she had where (for once), she actually left the house and had..... wait for it............ a jager bomb. She felt absolutely exhausted and still a bit ill from this huge night, even though it was about a week ago. I pipe up with 'don't you go out anymore at all?' to which she replied - 'No - you can't do that sort of thing once you have children'. I said 'why would you give up having a life to have a child?' her response - 'I had a child to give my life some meaning', looking disapprovingly at me for selfishly having both independant thought and a social life.

Now admittedly she is very overweight, has very low self-esteem and lists reading 'NW magazine' as a highlight of her week, but honestly - what a waste of a life. Why not just keel over and die right now.

I have packed more into my life at 23 than she has at the age of 35 - yet she tries to make me feel guilty for wanting a life. I love my life and I certainly wouldn't trade it in to be lumped with a screaming child 24/7. She talks like it was an astonishing achievement for someone to give birth and we should all be in awe of her accomplishment as it is such a rare event.




I understand that for gays its very different in terms of having or getting a child, but I cannot understand people who's lives are so pathetic that having a child gives it 'some meaning'. I am young, but to give up everything I have worked so hard for (money, career, freedom) and enjoy so much (a social life, holidays, more freedom) to have a child seems like a life sentence.


Don't complain to me about your child - its your choice - you ended your life when you had one. Complain to someone about how tired you are today (because the baby was screaming all night) to someone who actually cares.



thoughts? (this should stir a little controversy!)

Completly agree with you!!!
Nothing is worse than a new mother, oh yes it's wonderful, oh yes it's a miracle, such a small thing grows into a person but BLAH BLAH BLAH, your not the first person to have a baby and ya wont be the last so deal with it!!

I think it's wrong that people can be judged for not choosing to have kids, i think if you want kids then go ahead but straight people seem to pressure each other into it like it's buying a dog or something rather than bringing a person into this messed up world.

As for people shooting gyas looks for not having kids, they forget that we are doing our part. I firmly believe that we are Nature's contraception, we cannot breed and therefore we are the ultimate way of keeping the numbers down so if it wasn't for us, theis planet would have been full of people at the time of the dinosaurs!!!!

My mum told me that your life isn't complete until you have children; but I disagree. Often I see young people with children and think of all the things they're missing out on. I couldn't imagine having a child at 21. When I was that age I was finishing off my uni degree, hadn't even travelled and still felt like a child myself.

Having children definitely isn't for everyone and I think that people should only do it if they genuinely feel they're at a stage in their life when they want children, not just because they think it's expected of them.

I think ppl can get along fine without kids, especially gay ppl, we have been doin it for years...hahahahaha
It's horrible these days seeing kids with kids, they might be experiencing life but it's not the life, people of their age SHOULD be experiencing
I'm 24 and would hate to have a child at this age, i feel far too young and nowhere near responsible for my won life let alone a babies.
I guess it's personal choice when to have kids but you can kinda see the mothers/fathers that have had parenthood thrust upon them rather than made to have a choice......

The whole arguments against gays having kids goes straight out of the window when you see STUPID PEOPLE popping them out without even thinking.

Couldn't agree with you more JamieB, some sad people who are unfit to be parents have them just because it's the thing to do. and then you get gay couples who should have kids who legally are not allowed to...

I agree kids would do nothing for my life......i like my holidays, i like my nice clothes clean and my furniture and house spotless.....

I was once told point blank from a mole i used to work with when our company was going through a restructure that if redundancies do take place (and they did) I should be the first to be made redundant based on my lifestyle as I do not have a) mortgage or b) children to care for c) my age (i was 25).....wtf...lets just say she coped an earful and i showed no pitty when others were made redundant based on skills and performance.....same mole thinks she should receive paid maternity leave - her choice to get knocked up hence she should pay for the experience......

I have also been told by my relo's i should have a child for my parents sake and give them grandchildern......um no never......

Good for you Mjmo
Its blatenet discrim, that just cuz we CHOOSE to not sign up for 18 yrs of sacrificing our needs that we are inherently bad bad bad bad people and must be punished for it.