Kidman Plays Trans Artist

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Will Nicole Kidman’s latest role as a trans artist turn a few heads and invigorate the starlet’s career?

Kidman is set to play Danish painter Einar Wegener in the film The Danish Girl. Kidman has played a troubled artist before, including her Oscar award winning performance as Virginia Wolf in The Hours, but Wegener was more than just an artist. In 1930, Einar Wagner was the first person to undergo a sex change, changing her name to Lili Elbe and living as a woman.

Directed by Tomas Alfredson, who brought strange vampire flick Let The Right One In to cinema screens, Kidman is also the film’s producer and sources say the film will go into production soon.

Based on a novel about Lile Elbe’s life, the film was also set to star Charlize Theron, as Elbe’s wife, but Theron is said to have been unable to commit to the project.

After five separate operations that were part of her sex change, Elbe died in 1931 due to complications during surgery. Revolutionary at the time, the surgeries involved removing Elbe’s testicles and attempting to transplant a uterus so Elbe could bear children.

Will the interesting role bring Kidman’s career back to life? Let’s cross our fingers.

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earthangel

earthangel said on the 20th Sep, 2009

Dsquare, I have just put a post at OII Australia about Roberta Cowell. We have a copy of her autobiography, long out of print but given to us as a PDF for members only I am afraid. The word intersex was first used in the early 1900s. The word transsexual appears to have been created sometime in the 1950s. In each case we are searching for the actual proof of first publication. The sexologists Lili consulted used the word intersex AFAIK. A very small percentage of intersex people also use the term transsexual for themselves, but with reservations I have observed. I really think at this stage it is more useful to consider intersex people and transsexual people as separate. Intersex people have a range of very specific needs. No human rights for a start. Very specific medical needs that are largely unmet. Anyone should have the right to voluntarily undergo urogenital surgery if they are willing to take full responsibility, without having to undergo the oppressive labeling of them as mentally disordered. In Lili's time, there was no such name or concept as "gender reassignment surgery" - she was a pioneer in that. GRS is a more recent term that is in itself quite inaccurate - gender, being one's social role, cannot be reassigned with surgery. Sex can, as it were. Genitals can be reconstructed. The surgery intersex people undergo is urogenital correction surgery to give it the name that such surgeons call it. As for relative prevalence, intersex people are supposed to be 1:60 to 1:100. Transsexual people are supposed to be much less common. You are right, we do need to stop trying to think of one group of people according to what another group actually is - that tendency causes a huge amount of trouble, especially for intersex people! Let us be ourselves and be known for who we are!

Flaneur

Flaneur said on the 21st Sep, 2009


I think the vastly simplified version of trans is that your gendered identity is different to your biological one or the one assigned to you at birth. Some, but not all, seek to redress this by undergoing transition procedures such as hormones and/or sex reassignment surgery. However trans is a very broad category which even includes transvestites and such, as opposed to just transexuals, so there's no real cross-section of society which is theoretically incapable of being trans.

The way it's explained to me by some trans persons is that you have gender identity (male, female, gender queer), gender roles (e.g masculinity or femininity), biological sex (e.g traditionally male, traditionally female or intersexed), sexual orientation (e.g gay, straight, bi, asexual etc.) and sexual practice. These things are all separate, related but separate. That's why I'm unsure that being intersex and being a trans person (whether you see yourself as transexual, transvestite, gender queer etc.) are all that mutually exclusive.

Also, as you point out, intersex is a biological thing and you can't transition from intersex to intersex but whether they undergo transition or not, a trans person is still their biological sex even though they have transitioned (they're not going from male to male or female to female, despite retaining their chromosomes). It's their gender identity which is most important there.

I think there would very much be difficulty in separating out what transition means for the different groups though as I know in the past many children were altered by default to fit (wasn't the old policy for the doctor to present the child as a girl with a genital problem to be fixed?) which brings up the point of transition vs. mutilation which is going to obviously be a tense one in anything but an academic discussion.

That said, I don't want to overstep my bounds on this topic. I'm neither trans nor intersex and having spoken to a number of the former and read literature about both isn't a substitute for the personal perspective or a stake in the issue.

earthangel

earthangel said on the 21st Sep, 2009

Hello Joal! Reference to the known facts is in order. The word intersex was first used in 1901 and was in use by Lili Elbe's medical advisers and surgeon in 1931. Those advisers and surgeon noted what they observed of Lili's biology and acted upon it medically with her consent. The word transsexual was defined by Harry Benjamin in "The Transsexual Phenomenon" in 1966. The term transgender was popularised in the 1970s and first appeared print in 1969. These things can be researched and verified. It is unlikely that Lili would have foreseen two words unknown in her time would have come into existence sometime in the future and then would have chosen to apply those words to herself several decades in advance. There are several issues at stake aside from that here. OII, the worldwide organization of intersex people, contends that only intersex people can speak for intersex people. There is a great deal of documented evidence that public knowledge of the existence of intersex has been suppressed and continues to be suppressed, most recently by the medical profession's invention of the concept of Disorders of Sex Development (DSDs). We find being characterized as disorders to be "fixed" objectionable and dehumanizing. Intersex babies' bodies should not be experimental subjects for interactive surgical demonstrations as is about to happen at that conference in the US. Lili Elbe is one of the very few publicly known intersex people, a heroine to many intersex people today, and we need her to be known as intersex which indeed she was. I hope that helps.