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Miranda Devine thinks youroger gerbils

Conservative columnist Miranda Devine has found herself at the centre of a new Twitter controversy, affectionately dubbed Gerbilgate.

It comes, ironically, after she published a column in the Sydney Morning Herald this week about comedian Catherine Deveny and her firing from Melbourne’s The Age newspaper after her Logies tweets. Divine called Deveny’s jokes “vile, as were so many of her stream-of-consciousness screechings on Twitter.”

It all began when Miranda wrote an opinion piece in the Sydney Morning Herald last month about the upcoming Sex and the City 2 movie, which included the following paragraph: “Marriage increasingly is under threat, from sky-high divorce rates and de facto unions to a push for same-sex marriage, which confuses legitimate gay rights with the undermining of a battered institution maligned as misogynistic and fostering intolerance.

This prompted Griffith University student Justin Barbour to have a brief and public Twitter argument with Devine where he called her “homophobic and offensive” and she accused him of being dishonest.

When Justin sent Miranda a public tweet that said “@mirandadevine had enough of attacking the gays for now I see. great, thanks”, Miranda tweeted back “you’ve had enough of rogering gerbils I see. great. thanks.”

“That is a really disgusting comment, Miranda,” said Barbour, “you have a right to your views but that is just reprehensible.”

The offensive post between being gay and about rogering gerbils has since been removed by Devine, but not before it caused a minor stir and created a new Twitter hash tag (#rogeringgerbils). Yesterday Crikey.com.au commented, “It will be interesting to see what action, if any, Fairfax take over this twitspit… Will a journalist be held to the same standards as a comedian?”

Is Miranda a hypocrite? Or is it all a storm in a Tweetcup?

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Phazz

Phazz said on the 9th May, 2010

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2010/05/09/et-tu-miranda/

If you needed any more reason to dislike her, she drops this. Maybe she's off her meds.

ammonite

ammonite said on the 9th May, 2010

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/files/2010/05/Picture-22.png

bahahahahaha

that is so bad

what a dickhead

Grumpy

Grumpy said on the 9th May, 2010

So bloody what - both twits need to pull their heads in.

djak

djak said on the 10th May, 2010

for the first time in months I have been reading my twitter ... fun and games as well as spam and yawns

Brisbenlaw89

Brisbenlaw89 said on the 10th May, 2010

I can not stand Miranda Devine. we had a debate about her in my feature writing class and i voiced my opinions on her conservative work and how she links being gay with derogatory terms. Some people tried to defend her by saying it was only satirical but I saw no satire in it what so ever.

guru_g

guru_g said on the 10th May, 2010

Isn't "Roger Gerbils" a fabulous name! :D

Maybe for a TV host?

andygisby

andygisby said on the 10th May, 2010

She's just gross. She has been nominated for her ignorant comments and I'd urge everyone to go to www.the glorias.com.au and vote for her.

alexhg4616

alexhg4616 said on the 10th May, 2010

I think Miranda Devine is actually Piers Ackerman in drag

Totka

Totka said on the 10th May, 2010

Miranda Devine - thats gotta be a fake name. Surely there is a drag queen somewhere out there that can sue her for copyright infringement.

brodes13

brodes13 said on the 10th May, 2010

*giggle* http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/a-black-day-for-australian-gerbilism/#item3037

jimjazz

jimjazz said on the 10th May, 2010

she's generally an idiot. like akerman, bolt et al they posit with such surety their belief on how much better off we'd all be if their opinion was adopted into law. Here's a thought, let's actually put these so called experts on how to build a perfect society in canberra for a year and watch them explode in a jism of hopelessness. now, that's a reality TV show i'd watch.

jimjazz

jimjazz said on the 10th May, 2010

BTW - what is a "legitimate" gay right? the right to respect her need to have us seen and not heard, perhaps? that is all.

coast_boy_21

coast_boy_21 said on the 10th May, 2010

Im not defending Miranda Devine, however she does have a point when she mentioned "push for same-sex marriage, which confuses legitimate gay rights". I mean in some of the African countries they now want to hold off legalising gay sex because they are worried its going to lead to gay marriage, often these people don't understand homosexuality let alone gay marriage.

datkindagal

datkindagal said on the 10th May, 2010

lol


the queen of fowl is back

rudeboy86

rudeboy86 said on the 10th May, 2010

Like Pamela Bone(head), this woman is a fucking disgrace to journalism and is just a Fairfax version of Andrew Bolt who is also a fucking dickhead.

None of these people deserve the attention that they crave and should be tossed into the dustbin of history as just unwanted scrap.



P.S. For the record Pamela Bone(head) died the other year...not celebrating but I sure as shit don't miss her.

FarrahFoursteps

FarrahFoursteps said on the 10th May, 2010

On 7 News/Yahoo site, in the comments section of this story, one enlightenend comment suggests "im sure there is an island somewhere where all the gays can live in peace with them selves and leave the normals alone" - http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/entertainment/7199222/devine-twitter-controversy-gerbils

At this point in my life sure - buy us an island that we can all go and get away from all you f#*@ing normals... who'll join me?

rudeboy86

rudeboy86 said on the 10th May, 2010

I'll come along with you but I want to organise a group on this island to run back into society and continue subverting the heteronormative patriarchal framework that binds society...when I say bind I mean restricting of freedom.

Here's hoping Miranda falls ill...I don't want her to die...I just want her to suffer lol...

TheOldie

TheOldie said on the 10th May, 2010

Oh well say anything to grab a headline/make the news if you cant do it with professional journalism.

She's had her day.

fabrik_maddie

fabrik_maddie said on the 10th May, 2010

She's a tabloid right-wing nut. Check back on her articles and you'll find she doesn't believe that climate change and global warming are happening. Noteworthy when i wrote a complaint about her to The Age (Fairfax) after I read one of her race hate articles about Muslim men. They told me... basically that they were fine with the article but that I please note she doesn't write for The Age.
She is the opposite of Catherine Deveny politically but just as inflamatory, and one could only imagine how she actually feels about gay rights other then marriage, but I'd bet she is far more homophobic privately then she has been in her articles in the interest of keeping her job.

eurolad

eurolad said on the 10th May, 2010

What does rogering gerbils mean?

MickeyD

MickeyD said on the 10th May, 2010

I believe it's a reference to sticking gerbils and other small rodents up your arse (live). It's a fetish made popular by one, Richard Gere. Although this whole concept is a total myth IMHO, unless someone here cares to provide corroborating evidence establishing the contrary??

Nathan Sydney

Nathan Sydney said on the 10th May, 2010

Miranda is a hypocrite and its a storm in a tweet cup.

Her comment was in poor taste.

Nathan Sydney

Nathan Sydney said on the 10th May, 2010

I must say she is pretty hard faced as well. You can tell she is unhappy with her lot in life. Hence the lashing out at everyone else.

Kezza

Kezza said on the 10th May, 2010

I have had it with reading articles from this cunt......especially that one defending the Catholic church and blaming the victims of its abuse. I have gone to the Contact us section of the Sydney Morning Herald and emailed them looking for her blood (demanding that she be sacked or I will cut off all connections with the media outlet because its credibility has been put in disrepute by her) - extreme I know but I really can't stand to read another Miranda Devine piece of trash article!

If enough people do the same, hopefully Sydney will finally be rid of this Bitch and her horrible influence on society!

naughtylion

naughtylion said on the 10th May, 2010

Oh what, ever.

The other comedian bitch makes the same kinda jokes and everyone thinks she was a scream and unjustly fired from The Age, and because this one makes a similar comment about homosexuals we're all up in arms.

It was funny!! :)

tricky28

tricky28 said on the 10th May, 2010

I don't really care about the comment she made. It is the fact she just ranted about journalists needing to be more cautious about their public persona, and then turns around and skirts the issue before her article's ink has even dried. No doubt cynically thinking a nobody gay is hardly going to bring the repercussions equivalent to that of attacking the 'elites' of society.

Barrin

Barrin said on the 10th May, 2010

What strikes me is that Catherine Deveney's comments were completely in keeping with her persona as stand-up comic. When criticsing her Miranda even conceded that Catherine doesn't pretend to be something she isn't. However, the gerbils comment is totally out of character for Miranda Divine. Or at least for those of us who only know her through her newspaper column. Just what is behind that facade? I wonder what her father, Frank Devine, who died last year (link below) would have made of it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Devine

blueterrace

blueterrace said on the 10th May, 2010

This talentless hack got her start as a “writer” via good old fashioned nepotism, and maintained it by churning out lowest common denominator sensationalist pap for the bloids. Fortunately the bird cage liners that print her drivel are going out of business. Won’t be long before she gets terminated like so many other hacks…perhaps then she’ll be forced to earn a living on her own for the first time. Perhaps running a pet shop.

scott_

scott_ said on the 10th May, 2010

Ha rogering....that guy sounds like a tool anyway. Even if she is a hack shes still entitled say what she thinks, so its bad luck if some people get offended

wysiwyg_syd

wysiwyg_syd said on the 10th May, 2010

Twits are now permanently recorded in the records of the US Library of Congress. hmmm

hazyinseptember

hazyinseptember said on the 10th May, 2010



I am kind of confused too, as no doubt Miranda Devine is...

Rogering is an english term usually meaning anal sex, so she is trying to make that tenacious thread that gay men stick gerbils up their butts..

however Rogering usually means 'giving anal sex' as in "i gave LB a good rogering and it didn't touch the sides"..

did she mean 'topping' gerbils? would someone need to use some kind of miniature strap on? ;)

I do wish if people were going to insult others, that they at least made some kind of sense, and don't sound like something we used to say in primary school.. sheesh!! :D

djak

djak said on the 11th May, 2010

This guy was quite prophetic...

if-i-make-you-angry-enough-maybe-youll-keep-reading

Hessy

Hessy said on the 11th May, 2010

do we have go live on an island? and roger gerbils? (which the lesbians don't do...unless there's strap ons involved...) i like scaring the 'normals'. plus there's one big flaw to your island plan, how would the bisexuals live?

datkindagal

datkindagal said on the 11th May, 2010

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7605/8e15f194847.jpg<-Asshat and many more 2 syllable colloquials.

guru_g

guru_g said on the 11th May, 2010

This guy was quite prophetic...

if-i-make-you-angry-enough-maybe-youll-keep-reading

Djak, this article you've linked to is brilliant so I've put it here to make it easier for more SameSamers to read...

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media
2 Nov 2009

'If I Make You Angry Enough, Maybe You'll Keep Reading'
By Jason Wilson


Tags:trollumnists miranda devine media journalism jason wilson david burchall catherine deveny Editors use flimsy commentary from 'trollumnists' like Miranda Devine to stir up outrage. But baiting readers in this way ultimately hurts your organisation, writes Jason Wilson

It used to be that to get your own column in a broadsheet, you needed to add some value. Expertise, skill in interpreting social and political developments, or a distinguished history as a journalist were rewarded with a bit more space in the paper. There, you could spin out a longer-form piece analysing burning issues in a little more depth, or you could even act as an advocate for things that weren’t on the public’s radar.

As the newspaper business model heads south, though, we’ve been subjected to the rise of what we might christen the "trollumnist" — the writer who simply "trolls" in a multichannel, multimedia environment. And the erstwhile self-identification of papers like the Sydney Morning Herald and The Australian as quality outlets matters little in the attention economy: on the internet, no one knows you’re a broadsheet. Whereas a true columnist might make controversial arguments or challenge common sense, trollumnists merely provoke outrage in order to sell papers, draw links and capture increasingly scarce reader attention. The beauty of it all is that it doesn’t take much training to do it, and as media content goes, it’s cheap as chips. Any fool can offend people given a reasonably prominent platform.

Take Miranda Devine from the Sydney Morning Herald. In recent months, she’s fatuously provoked a range of groups in the community, from dog owners to offal eaters to Facebook users, and managed to imply that all of these diverse groups drink too many cafe lattes.

This week, she had a shot at cyclists. Generalising from a single incident, Devine claimed cyclists were a menace to poor old motorists. "The road", she wrote "is not there to share. Roads are built for cars." She sees it as an undeclared civil war, where "hostilities were fed by the lies told by the Government and the RTA, which gave cyclists unreasonable expectations and ideas above their station." And naturally, there’s a conspiracy afoot: "The ideologues who have fostered the road-sharing lie must think a few dead cyclists and pedestrians are a small price to pay for getting cars off the road, because that is their ultimate aim: to make driving so unpleasant, slow, expensive and fraught with hazards that motorists give up."

Devine can string a sentence together, so one must credit her with a degree of intelligence. She would know as well as anyone else that this is arrant nonsense. It’s ineffably arrogant, and makes no real policy proposal except "cyclists should get out of the way". If there’s a large audience out there who soberly and genuinely endorses this brand of ressentiment, it is, as Glen Fuller points out an audience that appreciates appeals "to brute physical force as trumping an ethics of (road) sharing when it works to their advantage".

But really, Devine’s column isn’t there to express a view shared by real people, but rather to disagree with a particular group. The column is aimed at cyclists, and those who are prepared to get angry on their behalf. Anyone who — like Devine — uses Twitter will have seen the outrage cranking up as soon as the column was posted. Along with the expressions of anger come links to the online version of the column, where metrics are collected and advertising hosted. In a fragmented media marketplace augmented by real-time social media, networked irritation drives traffic. Devine’s columns look more and more like linkbaiting, pure and simple.

She’s not the only one, of course. One of my least favourite writers is Catherine Deveny, also with Fairfax. Deveny claims both to be left wing and a humourist, but I can’t see that she’s either. (Perhaps it’s a Melbourne thing?) Deveny’s schtick is to leverage her own allegedly humble origins to put shit on "bogans" for the entertainment of The Age’s middle class audience, which sounds like the opposite of anything I’d want to define as progressive. She is, as a friend put it to me, "prolifically mean", mocking the sensibilities of anyone with the bad sense to live beyond the extent of the tram lines. Last week she went to Chadstone and poured scorn on suburban people, without basis except that their habits of leisure and consumption are distasteful to her.

Her work is intellectually, morally and politically barren, but importantly, it gets a reaction, with social media and blogs pointing traffic in her direction with each lazy, offensive column she issues forth. I’m one of the worst offenders, regularly, exasperatedly linking to her work when I read it. It only recently occured to me, as one of my own comments cascaded out through friends on Twitter, that however incrementally, I was increasing the size of her audience.

It’s not just Fairfax, of course — in News Limited’s broadsheet, The Australian, for trollumnists like Janet Albrechtsen or David Burchell, one regularly gets the sense that the content of any particular piece is far less important than axe-griding, and the blunt provocation that gets the bloggers fuming and the tweets ricocheting around the tubes.

It’s a dead cert, of course, that all this is going to get worse. The key reason for this is that there are policy analysts, opinion writers and even humourists in Australia’s blogosphere who run rings around all of the writers I’ve named, and do so for free. Real news takes time and money to produce, and there’s less time and money available in the newspaper industry than ever before. In the absence of a compelling online mainstream media product, trollumnists can look like they’re helping. Offending people will get eyeballs, and given that mainstream media outlets still have reach, with the addition of real-time social networking platforms, you can gather what looks like an audience reliably and quickly. Of course, the problem is that at the same time they’re pulling people in, little by little they’re damaging the brand.

As media consumers and producers, what can we do about the trollumnist? I have to say that I am personally in a bit of a bind, recognising that the sort of stuff they say on the platforms that they have shouldn’t go unchallenged, but also that every link to the latest outrage is merely encouraging bad behaviour.

Meanwhile, attempts to get around that trap, to appeal directly to the outlets, seem to keep failing. I’m not sure how many more times we can tell media organisations that the way to bring us back and keep us is to offer a reliable source of accurate, timely and fair reportage and analysis.

Grumpy

Grumpy said on the 11th May, 2010

http://www.beyondhelp.net/images/products/save-th-gerbils-th-w.jpg

MickeyD

MickeyD said on the 11th May, 2010

Does someone care to post whether the sticking-gerbils-up-your-arse stories are true?? I think it's a myth- I just can't get my head around how it could be physically possible!!

guru_g

guru_g said on the 11th May, 2010

I suppose this isn't the right thread to remind everyone about Lemmywinks?

TheOldie

TheOldie said on the 11th May, 2010



It feels funny at first but afterwhile you get used to it and the feeling is amazing.

Trouble comes when you have had enough and then you have to get the little bugger out.

ammonite

ammonite said on the 11th May, 2010

Oh what, ever.

The other comedian bitch makes the same kinda jokes and everyone thinks she was a scream and unjustly fired from The Age, and because this one makes a similar comment about homosexuals we're all up in arms.

It was funny!! :)actually i found this one funny, and hated the Catherine Deveny twitters
?



ahahahahahahaha

MickeyD

MickeyD said on the 11th May, 2010

It feels funny at first but afterwhile you get used to it and the feeling is amazing.

Trouble comes when you have had enough and then you have to get the little bugger out.

Haha, I think you are having me on but I will indulge you! How do you get it in there?? Don't they bite or scratch?? I am assuming that it would not be a pleasant experience for the gerbil at least- wouldn't it be trying to eat it's way out through your insides or something lol? Wouldn't it suffocate?? This whole thing just doesn't make sense to me... isn't there another way of experiencing the same sensation without the sacrifice of a small animal?? :)

TheOldie

TheOldie said on the 11th May, 2010



Look at Grumpy' post and thats how you do it and when you have had enough
you put the tube back in to coax it out. Any kind of food at the end will generally
get it back out but sometimes it doesnt.
Of course you trim the claws !

MickeyD

MickeyD said on the 11th May, 2010

Look at Grumpy' post and thats how you do it and when you have had enough
you put the tube back in to coax it out. Any kind of food at the end will generally
get it back out but sometimes it doesnt.
Of course you trim the claws !

:eek:

Today I have lost my innocence.

naughtylion

naughtylion said on the 12th May, 2010



lol the tube stays in and it scratches around in there. unless you want a squashed gerbil.

TheOldie

TheOldie said on the 12th May, 2010



awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

dont give it away that I know fuck all about gerbils ( sorry MickeyD )

Now as for you Mr ?

TheOldie

TheOldie said on the 12th May, 2010

:eek:

Today I have lost my innocence.

My pleasure :)

I dont know if its true or not but I suppose people have shoved many things up their over the centuries but animals ? seems tooooooooooooooooooo extreme.

As for how true the Richard Gere story was ...................................

naughtylion

naughtylion said on the 12th May, 2010

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

dont give it away that I know fuck all about gerbils ( sorry MickeyD )

Now as for you Mr ?

lol i looked it up years ago when i first heard the phrase and thought how the hell do you fuck a gerbil...

MickeyD

MickeyD said on the 12th May, 2010

Well I’m happy to hear Oldie that you don’t partake in suck shenanigans! Speaking of shoving animals up your Pikachu, I recently discussed with LB on another thread the case of a guy in the US who died from internal injuries after taking a horse up his arse. You can read about him here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kenneth_Pinyan

And if you don’t have a weak stomach you can watch him being fucked by the horse that fateful evening at the following link:

http://www.2guys1horse.com/

hazyinseptember

hazyinseptember said on the 12th May, 2010

your a bastard...I just could not help but click on that!!! OMG i got about 20 sec in and turned it off.. why the fuck did i even click on that?????? fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccck

http://www.2guys1horse.com/images/horsesex_noaids.jpg

Phazz

Phazz said on the 12th May, 2010

Well I’m happy to hear Oldie that you don’t partake in suck shenanigans! Speaking of shoving animals up your Pikachu, I recently discussed with LB on another thread the case of a guy in the US who died from internal injuries after taking a horse up his arse. You can read about him here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kenneth_Pinyan

And if you don’t have a weak stomach you can watch him being fucked by the horse that fateful evening at the following link:

http://www.2guys1horse.com/

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2010/01/satchorse.jpg

Even Sarah Jessica Parker has a sex tape. Gosh!!

coffeezombie5

coffeezombie5 said on the 12th May, 2010

I have no idea who she is, which I guess is the best revenge.

TheOldie

TheOldie said on the 12th May, 2010

your a bastard...I just could not help but click on that!!! OMG i got about 20 sec in and turned it off.. why the fuck did i even click on that?????? fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccck

http://www.2guys1horse.com/images/horsesex_noaids.jpg

AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

was like you hazy couldnt keep my fingers from clicking .....................

why oh why and how could that be a turn on.

datkindagal

datkindagal said on the 13th May, 2010

there are some things in this world I choose not to see.

guru_g

guru_g said on the 13th May, 2010

Roger The Gerbil's waiting...talking Italian