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Overseas gay weddings willremain blocked to Aussies

The Labor Government is stopping Australian same-sex couples from marrying overseas as well as at home.

Last week the Gillard Government informed marriage equality advocates that it has decided not to remove the ban, in place since at least 2005, on issuing Australians in same-sex relationships with the documents they need to marry overseas, called Certificates of Non-Impediment to Marriage or CNIs.

Last year’s Senate inquiry into marriage equality recommended lifting the CNI ban, even though it did not support allowing same-sex marriages in Australia.

Local marriage equality activists say they are deeply disappointed by the Labor Party’s failure to abide by the Senate inquiry recommendation, and would support a legal challenge to the ban.

“As if it’s not bad enough that the Government’s ban on same-sex marriages forces hundreds of Australians to marry overseas every year, often at great expense and without their families and friends present, the Government still wants to reach around the world in an effort to stop these Australians marrying,” says Australian Marriage Equality National Convener Alex Greenwich.

“We are seeking legal advice about challenging the mean-spirited ban on CNIs for same-sex partners in the Administrative Appeals Tribunal.”

Some countries which allow same-sex couples to marry also require foreign nationals to provide a Certificate of Non-Impediment to Marriage from their government to show they are not already married.

Since at least 2005 the Australian Government has refused to issue CNIs to same-sex couples marrying overseas on the basis that their marriage will not be recognised in Australia. However, it is widely understood that this is not what CNIs are for.

Gillard won’t front up

Also last week, Prime Minister Julia Gillard (pictured) turned down a request from marriage equality advocates, sent to her after she declared her personal opposition to the issue, to explain why allowing same-sex couples to marry is good for the couples, good for marriage and good for Australia.

“Clearly, the Labor leadership wants to look tough in its opposition to marriage equality, but it can’t hide the fact that its stance doesn’t have popular support and is opposed by an increasing number of Labor candidates including Cath Bowtell in Melbourne, Steven Hurd in Melbourne Ports and Steven Lewis in Wentworth,” says Greenwich.

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mikee

mikee said on the 4th Aug, 2010

If the CNI is just a document to prove you are not already married, could the two parties not obtain one each separately?

eurolad

eurolad said on the 4th Aug, 2010

I am sure you have to submit the name of the spouse when you request this document and Australian embassies around the world have been instructed to deny this document if the other partner is of the same sex

Breko

Breko said on the 4th Aug, 2010

Ryan Heath's previous article, 'How would the Labor Cabinet vote on gay marriage if it had the chance?' was very optimistic.

So was Same Same's tweet of yesterday "For our 1000th tweet we're making the prediction that gay marriage will be legalised in Australia by our 2500th tweet."

Unless these guy's have some inside knowledge the situation with Gay Marriage in this country looks very poor.

The Greens and the Australian Sex Party are our only allies on this issue at the moment, Labor does not care, as this article demonstrates.

jimjazz

jimjazz said on the 4th Aug, 2010

It seems the real Julia has stood up for this motion. Along with boat people

CeeJay

CeeJay said on the 4th Aug, 2010

This is a strange one - the CNI application form specifically asks for the 'male' and 'female' names. However you can get a 'single status certificate' from the NSW registry of births, deaths and marriages which the Portuguese consulate has indicated it will accept. Hopefully that won't change in the next 9 months!

eurolad

eurolad said on the 4th Aug, 2010

Ryan Heath's previous article, 'How would the Labor Cabinet vote on gay marriage if it had the chance?' was very optimistic.

So was Same Same's tweet of yesterday "For our 1000th tweet we're making the prediction that gay marriage will be legalised in Australia by our 2500th tweet."

Unless these guy's have some inside knowledge the situation with Gay Marriage in this country looks very poor.

The Greens and the Australian Sex Party are our only allies on this issue at the moment, Labor does not care, as this article demonstrates.

People who think that gay marriage will happen in this country are completely delusional indeed.

homestarrunner

homestarrunner said on the 4th Aug, 2010

everyone vote greens to get rid of the barren bitch who took over government!

mikee

mikee said on the 4th Aug, 2010



This is exactly the kind of thing that needs to happen.

Other governments may accept a different document which can be issued to a single person rather than a couple.

eurolad

eurolad said on the 4th Aug, 2010



Where do you people find yourselves foreign boyfriends to marry?

Travis de Jonk

Travis de Jonk said on the 4th Aug, 2010

I'm so disgusted by Labor. I've already voted, and the Sex Party got my vote in the senate. They are the party with the strongest 21st century, socially forward policies, from what I've seen.

oracle_sood

oracle_sood said on the 4th Aug, 2010

well looks like this aussie is going for dual citizenship and will be learning the words to O-Canada as his home country is run by a crazed bigot who can rot in her own hell..... and here i though i could come home some day and be equal...

eurolad

eurolad said on the 5th Aug, 2010



Are you in Canada now? On what grounds will you apply for PR?

Phazz

Phazz said on the 5th Aug, 2010

I'm a dual citizen with the US, so that part is sorted, not that I plan on getting married anytime soon.

hazyinseptember

hazyinseptember said on the 6th Aug, 2010



wah?

your delusional if you think it will never happen here.. its only a matter of time

CeeJay

CeeJay said on the 6th Aug, 2010

I agree - both parties moved to the right when they were losing votes to One Nation. Once they start losing votes to the Greens (particularly the ALP) instead, they should start moving at least slightly in the other direction. And if the Libs lose and have a change in leadership, it may be more likely to get support when/if the Greens introduce something.

It's certainly getting a lot more mainstream support & discussion, such as on Sunrise this morning:
http://au.tv.yahoo.com/sunrise/video/-/watch/21257381

badamj2000

badamj2000 said on the 6th Aug, 2010


Interstate? Western Suburbs? NZ?

DaddyWayne

DaddyWayne said on the 6th Aug, 2010

What a fucking bitch!!!!!!

It's alright for that slag of a PM - she can marry if she wishes; but for the goverment to deny the CNI's to same sex couples is VERY MEAN SPIRITED.

Someone tell the useless bitch to join the real world

YOU DON'T GET MY VOTE

sheree

sheree said on the 7th Aug, 2010

No, in Australian we don't discriminate do we..... Maybe as a GLTBI community we should sue the government for discrimination... We need to fight back as a whole.. Love is love at the end of the day. Just like death is death......