Polyamorists defend paradespot

www.samesame.com.au
  • 245
  • 2
  • 643

This year’s Sydney Mardi Gras theme is universal and infinite love – but with a politically-charged parade helping to promote marriage equality, is a group endorsing polyamorous relationships still allowed in?

This week the Sydney Polyamory group was concerned that Mardi Gras had gone too conservative as Australia’s gay marriage battle heightens, and would now no longer endorse the idea that relationships involving more than two people can be natural and ethical.

The group’s worries were highlighted on Victorian HIV prevention worker Daniel Reeders’ blog by a member of Sydney Polyamory who said he’d consulted Mardi Gras about their float.

“Sydney Mardi Gras does not include us as part of the LGBTIQ community,” said the Polyamory member’s alarming message to others in the parade group. “While we can express our support for the LGBTIQ community, we cannot have any signs that talk about polyamory or say things like ‘polyamory is ethical/natural’ etc.”

This attitude came as a surprise to the group’s float organiser, as she believes “our group is primarily composed of LGBTIQ members.”

“I am pretty angry and insulted about this… we were already not considering participating because a large number of community members were upset at not being considered part of the LGBTIQ community.”

The situation seems a little ironic, considering how much the widely-accepted symbol (below) for polyamory resembles Mardi Gras’ current ‘infinite love’ hearts logo…

When asked by Same Same for an update on the situation yesterday, Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras CEO Michael Rolik said a dialogue was open.

“We’ve been talking with the Polyamory Australia about their entry,” he confirmed.

“We’ve made no decision yet, we’re still consulting with the organisers and in respect to them we can’t really comment more at this time.”

But the latest comments by another Sydney Polyamory member on Reeders’ blog suggest that after some discussion, Mardi Gras has approved the group to march as long as they make clear they are “Queer Polyamorists” – therefore meeting the criteria of being LGBTIQ enough to march in the parade.

This appears to be a welcomed result, with the group seeming to understand the current sensitivity around their message, but making it clear they do not want it to be left out.

“Polyamorists have universally supported the equal marriage issue,” the commenter reflects. “There is some concern that in order to get that issue the recognition it needs for legislative change, there has been some distancing by equal marriage activists from the large chunk of the queer community that doesn’t practice monogamy.

“We generally understand the need to focus on one issue to get it through, but there’s a concern that we may then find ourselves ostracised by the people we have supported.”

Social

  • Lazzarus
  • MrAsh

Comments

www.samesame.com.au arrow left
26703
rudeboy86

rudeboy86 said on the 13th Feb, 2012

Speaking of vested interests...the following comes from the link posted below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvia_Rivera#Controversy

Rivera refused to have the drag culture erased from the gay rights agenda by assimilationist gay leaders who were seeking to make the community look more attractive to the heterosexual majority. Rivera's conflicts with mainstream gay and lesbian advocacy groups were emblematic of the mainstream gay rights movement's strained relationship to transgender issues. After her death, Michael Bronski recalled her anger when she felt that she was being marginalized within the community:

After Gay Liberation Front folded and the more reformist Gay Activists Alliance (GAA) became New York's primary gay rights group, Sylvia Rivera worked hard within their ranks in 1971 to promote a citywide gay rights, anti-discrimination ordinance. But for all of her work, when it came time to make deals, GAA dropped the portions in the civil rights bill that dealt with transvestitism and drag—it just wasn't possible to pass it with such "extreme" elements included. As it turned out, it wasn't possible to pass the bill anyway until 1986. But not only was the language of the bill changed, GAA—which was becoming increasingly more conservative, several of its founders and officers had plans to run for public office—even changed its political agenda to exclude issues of transvestitism and drag. It was also not unusual for Sylvia to be urged to "front" possibly dangerous demonstrations, but when the press showed up, she would be pushed aside by the more middle-class, "straight-appearing" leadership. In 1995, Rivera was still hurt: "When things started getting more mainstream, it was like, 'We don't need you no more'". But, she added, "Hell hath no fury like a drag queen scorned".


According to Bronski, Rivera was banned from New York's Gay & Lesbian Community Center for several years in the mid-nineties, because, on a cold winter's night, she aggressively demanded that the Center take care of poor and homeless queer youth. A short time before her death, Bronski reports that she said:

One of our main goals now is to destroy the Human Rights Campaign, because I'm tired of sitting on the back of the bumper. It's not even the back of the bus anymore — it's the back of the bumper. The bitch on wheels is back.


Rivera's struggles did not relate exclusively to trans people, as they intersected with issues of poverty and discrimination faced by people of color. The transgender-of-color activist and scholar Jessi Gan discusses how mainstream LGBT groups have routinely dismissed or not paid sufficient attention to Rivera's Latina identity, while Puerto Rican and Latino groups often have not fully acknowledged Rivera's contribution to their struggles for civil rights. Tim Retzloff has discussed this issue with respect to the omission of discussions about race and ethnicity in mainstream U.S. LGBT history, particularly with regard to Rivera's legacy.


Cis and Trans people have been around throughout history as well...its the terminology that is relatively new.

The term transgender (TG) was popularised in the 1970s (but implied in the 1960s) describing people who wanted to live cross-gender without sex reassignment surgery. In the 1980s the term was expanded to an umbrella term, and became popular as a means of uniting all those whose gender identity did not mesh with their gender assigned at birth.

rudeboy86

rudeboy86 said on the 13th Feb, 2012

Wiki says it's NOT just vodka

Molotov cocktail Recipe

A Molotov cocktail is a breakable glass bottle containing a flammable substance such as gasoline or a napalm-like mixture, with some motor oil added, and usually a source of ignition such as a burning cloth wick held in place by the bottle's stopper. The wick is usually soaked in alcohol or kerosene, rather than gasoline.

In action, the wick is lit and the bottle hurled at a target such as a vehicle or fortification. When the bottle smashes on impact, the ensuing cloud of petrol droplets and vapour ignites, causing an immediate fireball followed by a raging fire as the remainder of the fuel is consumed. Another method is to place a reactive substance in with the gasoline, and treat the label or wrapper paper with another chemical; when the bottle ruptures, the two chemicals mix and ignite; this is safer to handle if done properly, and does not betray the thrower with a visible flame prior to the throw.

Other flammable liquids such as diesel fuel, methanol, turpentine and E85 have been used in place of or with gasoline. Thickening agents such as Styrofoam, baking soda, tar, strips of tyre tubing, sugar, blood, XPS foam, egg whites, motor oil, rubber cement, and dish soap have been added to help the burning liquid adhere to the target and create clouds of thick, choking smoke.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov_cocktail

Wiki seems to be failing to mention a lot of things because the last time I made one at a friend's farm it was done with a very high-proof vodka and it went up like a charm...wouldn't have done it if he hadn't had a huge fire extinguisher but it was worth it. Grappa and Tsipouro are also good for making them.

There are 144 more comments. View them all