Activist proud of confrontingAbbott

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Melbourne marriage equality protestor Ali Hogg, who was ejected from a café at the weekend for yelling at opposition leader Tony Abbott, says she feels she got her point across.

Hogg, who regularly plans Melbourne’s Equal Love protest actions, raced to the University Café on Lygon Street on Sunday evening when she heard Abbott was there dining with a journalist.

“We get to hear his opinions all the time – his bigotry and homophobia,” Hogg tells Same Same. “So I didn’t want to miss my chance to have a go at him.”

Along with a handful of supporters, she waved a poster promoting the next marriage equality rally at the politician, and yelled “Tony Abbott, you’re a bigot, gay marriage you don’t dig it!”

She says reactions varied among the few diners at the café. Some supported her protests and asked to have their posters, but she soon found herself being “forcibly” escorted away. Abbott was calm. “He told us that we’d made our point and could we go,” Hogg recounts.

After being ejected from the eatery, the small group continued to chant their slogans at the window:

Hogg says she’s got no regrets and is proud she stood up to Abbott, especially after hearing he has a sister in a lesbian relationship but that he still does not support marriage equality. “His actions make people feel small,” she says. “I think more people should challenge him on his homophobia.”

The next national day of action on marriage equality is May 12, with marches planned in several cities.

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shireboy

shireboy said on the 18th Apr, 2012

I think you're all a bunch of dicks for being so childish about it all. Ali Hogg has been fighting for marriage equality, for YOUR rights, for almost ten years now. Tony Abbot has made regular childish and snard remarks at her expense so I completely understand where Ali is coming from.

Young queers want more out of life and shes doing something about it. The cheap and nasty sex of the 70s is gone and it won't be coming back. I understand that none of you feel like you should have to get with the program. But just remember that noone listens to old, pathetic, bitchy, sleazy internet trolls who give some young passionate woman shit for actually DOING something with her life.

maybe you remember this - it wasn't so long ago..............

Australia Day - 2012 - Canberra

Aboriginal protestors - TIPPED OFF about the presence of Abbott and Gillard decide to storm a nearby restaurant. A Nation is disgusted at their protest.


Equal Love convenor Ali Hogg, who organised the protest, said she was tipped off about Mr Abbott's location by another diner in the restaurant.

"We took the opportunity to give him a piece of our mind," she told the National Times this morning.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbott-not-gay-about-dinner-ambush-20120418-1x6iu.html#ixzz1sMpxZYaw


The actions of Ali Hogg are exactly the same as the Aboriginal protest : DUMB AND DUMBER !! What an idiot, a fool, and a bogan. All she has done is achieved the opposite - given herself a bad rap for her stupidity.

555Sean

555Sean said on the 18th Apr, 2012

This story really annoys me. Hogg, does not represent me in any way and I find her behaviour offensive and counterproductive. In regard to 'Gay Marriage', I don't think it is necessary, in my opinion. I personally think Civil Unions are a more appropriate avenue for people who want their partnerships recognised for personal reasons, without insulting religious traditions or causing an uproar. Afterall, De-facto relationships have been recognised for years without 'sticking it up the church', so to speak.

Yeah, I'm gay, I'm proud of who I am; but I don't need a piece of paper to define who I am. I am also a Dad. Being gay didn't stop me from having a child. Legally, being gay in this country is not a issue. I know I have the same rights as the rest of society. It seems only to be a problem for those who want to make it an issue on both sides of the fence. The "activists" need to get a grip and celebrate the fact they are different, privately.

I thought we were, as a group, supposed to celebrate 'diversity' in our community. Why are some now trying to make us 'the same' as the rest? I made my life choice and am more than happy with it. The minority of the minority should take some time to ponder this question.

Behaving rudely and disrespectfully will not help anyone. Hogg's, behaviour can only alienate the gay community. It sickens me that people like her tarnish my own standing in the community, given my own choice of lover and sexual orientation. I respect the fact other people are uncomfortable with my choice in society, but that is their problem so far as I am concerned. Activists like, Hogg, seem to hide behind the banner of GLBTI to further their own personal goals with little regard to what other individuals within the sub-groups actually think, believe or want.

Still, each to his/her own. I don't like what she and her friends said or how they went about it, but I guess I should respect her right to say it; while free speech is still legal in Australia. I just hope her actions do not reflect badly on others, like me, who are happy with their own lives and happy to be left alone; free to do as we choose without government intervention.

Abbott isn't as bad as some people like to make out. I'm certain he still loves his Lesbian sister and enjoys their personal relationship. I, for one, am more than happy with Mr Abbott. He personally made HIV medication available in Australia. Prolonging the life of people suffering with the disease when he was Health Minister. Abbott has done more for the gay community in terms of saving lives than Ms Hogg's has, I'm sure, and I thank him for that. Not a bad bloke in my book.

shireboy

shireboy said on the 18th Apr, 2012

whats up with the people who dont support this? its because of activists like ali that we do have rights and that we can do things like oh i dont know, maybe exist without being arrested or whatever because you know it was illegal to do it if it was with the same sex at one point. the people at stonewall were not polite to authority, the 78ers were not diplomatic with the cops. if someone is oppressing you then you fight back and that is exactly what this protest was. asking nicely is what some people have been saying we should do for a long time but that has never worked, its been tried and it failed and the time for that is far gone. this protest may not change abbotts mind but hopfully it will bring the issue to the front of peoples minds and perhaps shame the bigot or make him feel isolated. i only wish i was in melbourne when this happened.

@shireboy: no, only racists didnt like that invasion day protest. it figures that you come from the shire.

First post - and this is the LOUD MOUTH CRAP that you sprout ??!! Invasion Day .... what crap !

Oh and 'comments' such as 'it figures that you come from the shire' is atypical of the bogan like 'activists' (re - idiots) that do ZERO for anyone's cause.

Oh - that's right - PICK ON SOMEONE'S PROFILE NAME / THEIR LOCATION AS BEING ALL ABOUT THEIR LIFE AND THEIR BELIEFS - AND YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO HAVE A GO AT ME ?? - AND then expect anyone else to gain some 'sympathy' for your cause ?? TALK ABOUT THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK !!!! You have basically 'labelled' me with the same tar brush based on some PERCEIVED NOTION without even knowing me. IT FIGURES to you means that I am a racist. Your case, your point - totally invalid based on this alone.

If you are simply joining this site / forum to WHINE about RIGHTS, ILLEGAL, PROTEST ... then nick off to where you came from. You do NO FAVOURS for anyone = and simply highlight the pathetic extremists whom will achieve nothing. Go away - your first post is just disgusting.

Dsquare

Dsquare said on the 19th Apr, 2012



No, I'm asking for the same rights and respect as all people who are currently allowed to marry under Australian law. Not all straight people who have the option to marry do so, just as not all same sex couples who have the right to marry should these ridiculous laws be changed will marry. But they will have the option to do so, an option which is now forbidden to them solely on the basis of their sexuality.

As for me "thoughtlessly echoing the propaganda', I can asure you this isn't the case. When this whole same sex marriage thing started I was completely non-plussed by the whole thing - I have no intention of ever marrying but didn't begrudge those who want to the right to do so. However, as time has gone on, I have come to see it as an equality issue, and, as I mentioned above, take issue at the fact that these laws prevent same sex couples from doing something that mixed sex couple can do for absolutely no reason other than the fact that they are same sex. It's blatant discrimination and it's wrong, whether it's related to the ability to get married or any other aspect of our lives as gay men and lesbians.

The issue of whether or not married couples have rights and priviledges above non-married couples and whether or not that is acceptable is a completely different issue. Sure, call for an end to all marriage if you want, but I'm pretty confident that the likelihood of achieving that would make trying to achieve marriage equality look like a walk in the park.

tariq

tariq said on the 19th Apr, 2012


the issue of these tactics offending people:
so what? we arent docile queers who will take homophobia just because it might offend wider society if we speak up. who defines offensive anyway? there are lots of things that people consider offensive that we continue to do- holding hands in public, not conforming to gender norms, kissing, picture books depicting queers are offensive. will we stop doing those things just because if might discomfort people? i should hope not. getting married will offend some but i very much doubt anyone here cares. i think ali's methods and that of the crowd with her were a valid tactic. if you step on the toes of a few homophobes then what of it? also if a group generalises you as something negative then i do not think going out of your way to disprove them will influence them will at all work to change their minds. they're homophobic bigots, why should we care at all what they think? being nice to them will not make them alter their mindset. the way to go is to show them we think they are disgusting and that they are a minority whose views we will not tolerate.

"if" or "when" we get marriage equality:
i do think it is when but i also think if we continue to consider it as inevitable then we will not get it, at least not for a long time. there is still a long way to go. we have a concience vote to deal with, it hasn't got the numbers at present to go in our favour and at next election it will be the liberals with tony abbott as its head that win and no way are we going to get equality from that slimeball. we just make him that uncomfortable.

RodF

RodF said on the 20th Apr, 2012

Because as long as there is terminology differentiating gay relationships from straight relationships there is not true equality - there is still something saying that we (a minority) are different from straights (the majority) and don't deserve exactly the same treatment. Classic discrimination.

And if it's not an us vs. them situation, why do those oppsed to marriage equality insist on making it one? We're simply asking for the same rights and respect as everyone else - it's those who oppose marriage equality who see us as a separate group which must be controlled by the majority.

That is a poor argument. Does that mean we should change the definition of cats to dogs to ensure that they are treated the same or outlaw referring to different breeds for fear of discrimination, or are they different? Nothing wrong with being different, embrace and celebrate it.

Most out there like myself and Tony Abbott for that matter are prepared to give the same rights and respect as everybody else. It's those that insist on using the term "marriage" that are ensuring true equality is delayed by decades, centuries or even millenia or never as "the majority" as you put it will always hold onto the term that is theirs and has always been theirs.
When you have approximately 150 new words being added to the dictionary every year surely agreeing on a new term to denote the union between a man and a man or a woman and woman shouldn't be too difficult.
How is this envisaged to work? That gay men introduce each other as their husbands and lesbians being known as each others wives? What's the expectation on this?

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