Turnbull: Let's try for civilunions

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Opposition frontbencher Malcolm Turnbull has challenged his own party leader’s views against marriage equality, but insists civil union legislation is the best next step.

In a speech at Southern Cross University yesterday, he made clear he’s not convinced by arguments against same-sex marriage, but did not believe legislation for it would pass.

Noting the “hypocrisy” of the most “sanctimonious” traditional marriage defenders who quote the Old Testament, he added: “No matter how sinful some Australians may think homosexual acts may be, no matter how depraved and disordered or worthy of the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah they consider them to be, these are opinions which are not reflected in our laws today.

“Let us be honest with each other. The threat to marriage is not the gays. It is a lack of loving commitment – whether it is found in the form of neglect, indifference, cruelty or adultery, to name just a few manifestations of the loveless desert in which too many marriages come to grief.”

But Turnbull is unable to vote for marriage equality himself when the debate comes up in Parliament soon. Opposition leader Tony Abbott is not granting his MPs an individual conscience vote – they all most vote ‘no’ as a bloc.

This persuades Turnbull to advice the less controversial route of civil union legislation, which he realises will not be enough for many, but may be an important step along the path.

“While I am very doubtful the numbers are there to legislate for gay marriage in the Federal Parliament I think they are certainly there to legislate for civil unions,” he said.

“I think it would be a great pity if marriage is not able to be passed in the parliament and that opportunity to pass civil unions should be taken up.”

Malcolm Turnbull’s full speech is available to read online here.

Reacting to the speech, marriage equality advocate Alex Greenwich warns against civil union legislation.

“Wherever civil unions have been enacted they entrench discrimination rather than remove it,” he notes.

“Mr Turnbull should know better than to suggest civil unions as a way forward, especially given that his own electorate survey overwhelmingly rejected civil unions and endorsed marriage equality.”

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Marc

Marc said on the 10th Jul, 2012



Birth Deaths and Marriage supply marriage certificates and have done for decades. Regardless of where the cerimony is performed BDM is where the marriage or Union is registered.

I just wish the F**king Christians buggered off in their belief that God ordained marriage, and that they own the 'word' marriage.

Have a google at marriage, read wikipaedia or any other historical comentary on marriage and it has very little to do with God, and everything to do with a contract of commitment, doweries, property, ownership of a wife, and bearing an heir!

Further more, our Christian judges forget that while they foist 4 Old Testement scripture as judgement against being gay, and married, they fail to apply the other 628 laws since they are no longer relevnet post Jesus, they also fail to acknowledge how many men had more than one wife, and as is the case with Solomon, how many concubines he had!

I used an example at a meeting a few weeks ago where an Old Testement law for a woman who's husband died, and they did not have children was required to be fucked by her brothers in law till she fell pregnant! Imagine THAT still being practiced by Jews or Christians in 2012!

I actually like Mr Turnbull. I think he has changed dramatically since he lost leadership of the Liberals, and I enjoy his candour and common sense dialogue. However, despite him being absolutely right, other contries that now have Marriage Equality beginning with Civil Unions, I do ask him to then consider it a "lesson leaned" from them so cut out step one and go directly to the top!