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Oxford St to get rainbowcrossings

In time for Sydney Mardi Gras next year, here’s how the crossing of Oxford Street by Taylor Square could look.

Last night the City of Sydney council voted unanimously to paint two Oxford Street crossings with Pride rainbow colours, reports the Sydney Morning Herald with the photoshopped photo above of how it could look.

The colourful crossing project will cost $75,000, as it needs a traffic risk assessment before painting gets underway. If the crossings prove popular over Mardi Gras season, they could be a permanent reminder that the street is our LGBT ‘Golden Mile’.

Initial online reaction to the rainbow plan is mixed, with some questioning what the money could be better used for. Others looked forward to the symbolism the plan represents – reclaiming ‘our’ street after a difficult few years of businesses struggling on the strip.

The idea of a rainbow crossing was first used in Los Angeles’ gay hub West Hollywood earlier this year, where the brick crosswalks at Santa Monica and San Vicente boulevards were painted with the Pride colours in June. It was supposed to be a temporary measure for Pride Month, but locals liked it so much, the painted paving is now permanent – and a popular tourist attraction.

Sydney’s planned rainbow crossing won’t be the first time the city has had a Pride pathway though. Back in March, a small street in the central Sydney suburb of Chippendale was painted by a mysterious group of artistic activists. See Paints Lane below and find out more here.

What do you think of City of Sydney’s plan to paint rainbow crossings across Oxford Street? Let us know below.

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Zepol23

Zepol23 said on the 11th Dec, 2012

great idea, costing is a little steep....

Lachness

Lachness said on the 11th Dec, 2012

$75K for some paint? Could do it cheaper as a community project.

TheOldie

TheOldie said on the 11th Dec, 2012

about time.

Should be a permanent fixture.

Tigerland

Tigerland said on the 11th Dec, 2012

Is Oxford street even gay anymore?

Dsquare

Dsquare said on the 11th Dec, 2012




I think they only want the crossings painted, not the whole road and half of Hyde Park.

shireboy

shireboy said on the 11th Dec, 2012

UTTERLY STUPID IDEA !!


Come on... please... just let Oxford Street go- It's close to death already ! Clover has seen to that.


Shops are closed and whats left to supposedly 'celebrate' ? - a bookshop ?? an adult shop ? There's less than a hanful of bars remaining that you would identify as clearly 'gay. The Walking Dead can be seen during the daytime.

IF some think / believe that this will be a 'tourist' attraction - then - pray, what will be the attraction to go to Oxford Street in the daytime to see this ? Will it be to see the local bogans camped next the court or near the Taylor Square 'water feature' ?? Or to participate in a 'classy' meal of a kebab ??

Granted - it will only be PAINT - and that wont last. The street is one of the busiest in Sydney. OH ... AND IT WILL CLASH AGAINST THE GREEN BIKE LANES :)


And further..... the $$ itself ? They (the Council) have come out with such a BIG announcement - and the $ value is so small. And to think that the City of Sydney Council is sitting on how many hundreds of millions ????

http://www.news.com.au/money/cost-of-living/cashed-up-councils-to-squeeze-families-in-nsw/story-fnagkbpv-1226241369981

Sorry for the somewhat negative attitude towards this - however - the Council should be doing more to SAVE the area - support businesses etc, not just a pointless gesture... When there's nothing left there..... who will come ??


One only has to look at Clover's other FANTASTIC ideas for Sydney.... Paris' equilivant in William Street ...... ah... Champs-Elysees streets with diners lined up.. ah not.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/city-drops-fees-to-dish-up-a-treat-for-outdoor-dining-20121123-29ykm.html

Open Sydney, the lord mayor's plan to make the city a livelier place at night, has a vision of streets lined with alfresco tables. The city especially wants footpath dining to take hold on Oxford Street and hopes outdoor dining will proliferate in the same way that small bars did after it overhauled liquor licensing in 2008.

Yep.... Maccas on the Street !!

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/poised-for-boulevards-of-commuters-broken-dreams-20121124-29zyz.html

Dsquare

Dsquare said on the 11th Dec, 2012




http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/city-drops...123-29ykm.html



The problem with Clover and her ilk is that they don't consider reality. Places like Paris and Berlin that have a lot of alfresco dining tend to have pockets of restaurants in quiter streets and squares. King St and Oxford St aren't suitable for alfresco dining because they are main roads with heavy traffic, even in the evening when people want to go out for dinner.

There used to be more outdoor tables on these streets, but I think these days people are less inclined to order a side dish of diesel fumes with their pad thai.

Besides, are there any restaurants left on Oxford St? I thought they all closed.

crazzymikey

crazzymikey said on the 11th Dec, 2012

The problem with Clover and her ilk is that they don't consider reality. Places like Paris and Berlin that have a lot of alfresco dining tend to have pockets of restaurants in quiter streets and squares. King St and Oxford St aren't suitable for alfresco dining because they are main roads with heavy traffic, even in the evening when people want to go out for dinner.

There used to be more outdoor tables on these streets, but I think these days people are less inclined to order a side dish of diesel fumes with their pad thai.

Besides, are there any restaurants left on Oxford St? I thought they all closed.

I think the biggest deterrent are all the street people and drug addicts awho harrass you for money and stuff whilst you are dining :eek:

Zepol23

Zepol23 said on the 11th Dec, 2012



the other night we had a guy follow us up the entire street

justinc

justinc said on the 11th Dec, 2012

wonderful! It certainly means something to our community.

Light-Bearer

Light-Bearer said on the 11th Dec, 2012

I thought this was cute until I found out it cost 75k to paint six or so stripes across one little street. It's not even anything that fancy. They could have gotten local kids to paint it for free as part of some community project. Which not only would have been cheaper- but it would have been a nice message also.

What the fuck is wrong with homos that they would think that 75 grand for a fucking rainbow was acceptable.

Someone should be shot for this

Doolander

Doolander said on the 11th Dec, 2012

Whinge, bitch, and moan. That's all any of you do.

It may not be much, but tell me, what are you getting now?

BTW it's not $75k for some fucking paint. To do things like this, as mentioned in the article, there are processes that need to be taken into consideration. The traffic risk assessment is probably a large portion of that money due to changing the standard designated signs for walk-ways on the road...

Chill out.

Or even better yet. Just organise a petition to the council and tell them no, you do not want them to do this and you do not want them to try for new ideas to inject life into the area. I mean, they don't have the qualifications to understand what will bring people to an area. Or do they?

In fact, what are the qualifcations of all the nay sayers? Please tell me how they suddenly became so educated...

ernesto_1

ernesto_1 said on the 11th Dec, 2012

they are gay bitchy queens who have walked these streets longer than u were born... haha

Light-Bearer

Light-Bearer said on the 11th Dec, 2012

Yawn. 75k to paint six stripes on a fucking road. Is just... well there are no words for this type of fabulous waste

mark_

mark_ said on the 11th Dec, 2012

That woman clover's very good at spending money and painting over problems but hopeless at solving the problems

Light-Bearer

Light-Bearer said on the 12th Dec, 2012

It's a fun idea.

but at some point, someone should have said " 75 grand?- go and piss up a rope"

Phazz

Phazz said on the 12th Dec, 2012

https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/10/23/46xYzWe8N0qra9vmOKeYLQ2.jpg

mark_

mark_ said on the 12th Dec, 2012

Clover could have used that $75 thousand to buy six dresses and an asylum-seeker.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/08/17/detention-centre-cost-of-asylum-seekers/

Light-Bearer

Light-Bearer said on the 12th Dec, 2012

Dresses? Why pray tell.
It's not like we're talking about Julia's husband here

JayTee

JayTee said on the 12th Dec, 2012

Fuck. At least she is doing something.

Everybody else is just whinging about the good old days and not doing anything to change things,

I'll tell you why Oxford street is dying - because old queens who live in the area don't go put anymore, and young queens party/socialize in other places (like the shire, parramatta etc)

If u want businesses on Oxford St to be successful there, then GO TO THEM!!! Buy meals from them, buy drinks, shop at the clotting stores. take your friends there and spend up big! If a store is successful it won't close down. If one store is successful, then other businesses will follow/copy them.

Oxford St (like any other community in this country) works on capitalism. If people spend money there enough, it's successful. If not, then it's it's bye bye. The local council can only do so much.

Put your money where your mouth is!

Light-Bearer

Light-Bearer said on the 12th Dec, 2012

I could have painted a better rainbow for half the price.

Hit me up next time Clover Lambert

DavoJimbo

DavoJimbo said on the 12th Dec, 2012

Fuck. At least she is doing something.

Everybody else is just whinging about the good old days and not doing anything to change things,

I'll tell you why Oxford street is dying - because old queens who live in the area don't go put anymore, and young queens party/socialize in other places (like the shire, parramatta etc)

If u want businesses on Oxford St to be successful there, then GO TO THEM!!! Buy meals from them, buy drinks, shop at the clotting stores. take your friends there and spend up big! If a store is successful it won't close down. If one store is successful, then other businesses will follow/copy them.

Oxford St (like any other community in this country) works on capitalism. If people spend money there enough, it's successful. If not, then it's it's bye bye. The local council can only do so much.

Put your money where your mouth is!


We do not go to them because we no longer NEED to go to them - times they have a changed - we can now go anywhere we want with our gay group of friends and not worry about it. Put up a museum and move on...

JayTee

JayTee said on the 12th Dec, 2012



Tell that to the queens who r bitching that Oxford St is dying.

I don't have a problem with progress. I just have a problem with complainers who do nothing to change the situation.

Light-Bearer

Light-Bearer said on the 12th Dec, 2012

I would have painted that rainbow for half the price and even thrown in a free handjob.

If you need any painting done. Hit me up

mark_

mark_ said on the 12th Dec, 2012


:eek: A handjob for Clover?

DavoJimbo

DavoJimbo said on the 12th Dec, 2012

Tell that to the queens who r bitching that Oxford St is dying.

I don't have a problem with progress. I just have a problem with complainers who do nothing to change the situation.

it is far easier to bitch and moan than work to effect change... I understand what you are saying..

My point is that for any venture to be successful , whether it be the gay pride parade, or the oxford street precinct,
it has to serve a purpose or fulfill a need that people are willing to pay for - and as we come closer to acceptance in the general population, those needs for queer centric entertainment venues diminishes....nothing will change that.
There will always be gay specific venues, but I think that the numbers will diminish and the successful ones will offer value for money, or a point of difference, and will be just as randomly located as other successful, main stream establishments.

crazzymikey

crazzymikey said on the 12th Dec, 2012

the outcry is over the money and doolander since the bulk of it would have been spent already there is no point complaining or petitioning. its just outrageous that it costs that much. No wonder we never have money for anything in sydney if it costs that mush to do the smallest things - bloody beaurocrats!

on a positive note it will be nice for the street and mardi gras coming up :)

wysi

wysi said on the 12th Dec, 2012

oh no i hope they're not painted as ugly as the pink taylor building.

MrAsh

MrAsh said on the 12th Dec, 2012

If Clover was wise she'd be focusing on making Macleay Street in Potts Point and King Street in Newtown into cool gay destinations. Those streets are the heart of where most GLBTIQ people live nowadays and both can facilitate a GLBTIQ village lifestyle quite easily.

Oxford Street is just a thoroughfare nowadays with social problems stemming from mental health and drug and alcohol issues. It will take at least a decade to clean up the area, address the issues and bring it up to something worthy of international standard.

Light-Bearer

Light-Bearer said on the 12th Dec, 2012

Fuck. At least she is doing something.

Everybody else is just whinging about the good old days and not doing anything to change things,

I'll tell you why Oxford street is dying - because old queens who live in the area don't go put anymore, and young queens party/socialize in other places (like the shire, parramatta etc)

If u want businesses on Oxford St to be successful there, then GO TO THEM!!! Buy meals from them, buy drinks, shop at the clotting stores. take your friends there and spend up big! If a store is successful it won't close down. If one store is successful, then other businesses will follow/copy them.

Oxford St (like any other community in this country) works on capitalism. If people spend money there enough, it's successful. If not, then it's it's bye bye. The local council can only do so much.

Put your money where your mouth is!


See the thing is- I prefer it when people do something " worthwhile" - as opposed to just " doing anything"

Call me old fashioned.

But just " doing' - is what a fucking mad person does

Light-Bearer

Light-Bearer said on the 12th Dec, 2012

Did anyone show them this:

[URL="http://www.inspirationspaint.com.au/paint-calculator?gclid=CLuTx-2IlLQCFUdfpQodEAsA6Q"]http://www.inspirationspaint.com.au/paint-calculator?gclid=CLuTx-2IlLQCFUdfpQodEAsA6Q

mark_

mark_ said on the 12th Dec, 2012

All this paintwork is SO cosmetic.

Five years ago Clover said she'd organise a 'late night shop front police station in Oxford Street" to stop the bashings.

It only lasted two weeks. But she and her friends have got the money for ditzy and daffy "arty" paint jobs.

crazzymikey

crazzymikey said on the 12th Dec, 2012

I would say this is just an effort to promote mardi gras coming up which is a huge money spinner -

Barrin

Barrin said on the 12th Dec, 2012

Fuck. At least she is doing something.

Everybody else is just whinging about the good old days and not doing anything to change things,

I'll tell you why Oxford street is dying - because old queens who live in the area don't go put anymore, and young queens party/socialize in other places (like the shire, parramatta etc)

If u want businesses on Oxford St to be successful there, then GO TO THEM!!! Buy meals from them, buy drinks, shop at the clotting stores. take your friends there and spend up big! If a store is successful it won't close down. If one store is successful, then other businesses will follow/copy them.

Oxford St (like any other community in this country) works on capitalism. If people spend money there enough, it's successful. If not, then it's it's bye bye. The local council can only do so much.

Put your money where your mouth is!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but at the time the Albury, Beauchamp, Beresford, Newtown and Manacle all closed they we're doing good business. They left us, we didn't leave them.
I've always thought with the Albury - the first to close - that they saw the decline coming so bailed out on a high. That's what smart business people do. What we need are entrepreneurs like Dawn O'Donnell, not politicians like Clover. I don't believe this is something the 'community' (for what it's worth these days) can influence.

Phazz

Phazz said on the 12th Dec, 2012

Maybe they could spend less on Fireworks for NYE or better yet transfer the gunfire out of the suburbs and into Darlinghurst to match the type of crowd flocking to the street.

JayTee

JayTee said on the 12th Dec, 2012

Correct me if I'm wrong, but at the time the Albury, Beauchamp, Beresford, Newtown and Manacle all closed they we're doing good business. They left us, we didn't leave them.
I've always thought with the Albury - the first to close - that they saw the decline coming so bailed out on a high. That's what smart business people do. What we need are entrepreneurs like Dawn O'Donnell, not politicians like Clover. I don't believe this is something the 'community' (for what it's worth these days) can influence.

The albury owners saw the decline coming?

If they were entrepreneurs like u r advocating we need, wouldn't they have found a way to circumvent the "decline"?

Perhaps they didn't see the decline coming but just saw $$$$ in selling their building.

JayTee

JayTee said on the 12th Dec, 2012

See the thing is- I prefer it when people do something " worthwhile" - as opposed to just " doing anything"

Call me old fashioned.

But just " doing' - is what a fucking mad person does

Painting is still more "doing" than complaining is. ...unless you count moving ones mouth up and down whilst blowing out hot air as "doing".

I once had a shirtthat had a great slogan printed on it: "Lead, follow, or get the f*ck out of the way".

Simply complaining about things isn't any of these things, no matter what keyboard warriors like to tell themselves....

If people want things changed they need to be a part of the solution. Get out there and do something to make our neighborhood, community and world closer to what you want it to be.

Fuck. Look at how pathetic we are complaining about paint. Our brothers of 20 years ago would be shaking their heads...

Barrin

Barrin said on the 12th Dec, 2012

The albury owners saw the decline coming?

If they were entrepreneurs like u r advocating we need, wouldn't they have found a way to circumvent the "decline"?

Perhaps they didn't see the decline coming but just saw $$$$ in selling their building.

I didn't call the Albury owners entrepreneurs. I suggested they were smart business people. There is a difference.

Doolander

Doolander said on the 12th Dec, 2012

the outcry is over the money and doolander since the bulk of it would have been spent already there is no point complaining or petitioning. its just outrageous that it costs that much. No wonder we never have money for anything in sydney if it costs that mush to do the smallest things - bloody beaurocrats!

on a positive note it will be nice for the street and mardi gras coming up :)

Money, that if wasn't spent, would mean less jobs, less afordability, and a slower economy... There is a complaint for anything.

If she didn't spend the money of the work that needed to be completed, people would have her head over fucking the economy of the city!

Like I said, at least it's something! If anyone else can do better, then go forth. Show her up.

Or as JayTee quoted of the t-shirt. Lead, follow, or get the fuck out of the way!

Dsquare

Dsquare said on the 12th Dec, 2012



Fuck. Look at how pathetic we are complaining about paint. Our brothers of 20 years ago would be shaking their heads...

As a brother* from 20 years ago I must disagree. Head shaking hurts too much since the arthritis set in.






(*Not the catholic type. I like my men to be at least old enough to vote)

Light-Bearer

Light-Bearer said on the 12th Dec, 2012

Painting is still more "doing" than complaining is. ...unless you count moving ones mouth up and down whilst blowing out hot air as "doing".

I once had a shirtthat had a great slogan printed on it: "Lead, follow, or get the f*ck out of the way".

Simply complaining about things isn't any of these things, no matter what keyboard warriors like to tell themselves....

If people want things changed they need to be a part of the solution. Get out there and do something to make our neighborhood, community and world closer to what you want it to be.

Fuck. Look at how pathetic we are complaining about paint. Our brothers of 20 years ago would be shaking their heads...

See - I think it's more pathetic to spend $75k that does not belong to you- on some scribble.

But what we are now dealing with is "perspectives'

And perspective- is something that the people that made this decision- lacked.

I mean. Some people think dressing up as cake is activism or perhaps even barking like a dog.

But us brothers from 20 years ago. Well - we are not so easily convinced.

shippo

shippo said on the 12th Dec, 2012

Great idea bring it on!!

Tigerland

Tigerland said on the 12th Dec, 2012

Did anyone show them this:

[URL="http://www.inspirationspaint.com.au/paint-calculator?gclid=CLuTx-2IlLQCFUdfpQodEAsA6Q"]http://www.inspirationspaint.com.au/paint-calculator?gclid=CLuTx-2IlLQCFUdfpQodEAsA6Q

I always wanted one of those Paint Tins with the Jelly Beans inside. :o

Phazz

Phazz said on the 12th Dec, 2012

See - I think it's more pathetic to spend $75k that does not belong to you- on some scribble.

But what we are now dealing with is "perspectives'

And perspective- is something that the people that made this decision- lacked.

I mean. Some people think dressing up as cake is activism or perhaps even barking like a dog.

But us brothers from 20 years ago. Well - we are not so easily convinced.

You're right. We need to tear down Taylor Square and surrounds to build another casino.

Beau

Beau said on the 12th Dec, 2012

Not only bogans do it.

https://d2g892zuoe3k49.cloudfront.net/4fc06d5cc64dfcba550165ae/i4cb8ebbe7e9e7_700.jpg

MrAsh

MrAsh said on the 12th Dec, 2012

$75,000 can go along way in providing mental health and drug/alcohol outreach services patrolling Oxford St.

It could also go towards a more tangible permanent symbol of GLBTIQ acceptance in Sydney like a huge flagpole in Taylor Square, flying the rainbow flag like they have in San Francisco.

Light-Bearer

Light-Bearer said on the 12th Dec, 2012

They could have made this a community project. Kinda like in New York when fucked up streets and suburbs, get together and turn a disused lot into a playground.

I don't hate the rainbow.
I actually love it.
I think it's a sweet gesture.

But it cost 75k and let's get real about this. That's a lot of money for what that is.
I paid painters to paint my entire house- it wasn't even a tenth of this price

crazzymikey

crazzymikey said on the 12th Dec, 2012

lets face it oxford st has become very dull.

if it were exciting and pumping like it once was then people would be flocking there in large numbers every weekend.
the truth is the venues are bland, sterile, overpriced and treat us like shit. there is no variety and the only venue that I see a line to because it is full each week is palms which is the only venue that is different and is reminiscent of the old gay scene.

instead of telling people what they want they need to supply what people want.

for a short time a few cabaret style venues opened and we thougt oh good a place where you can talk and hear each other and somewhere different. what did we get? shows on week nights and loud djs and lasers on the weekends. what happened? dead venues. why? because all they were trying to attract were straights and druggy party crowd which rather hang out at the many dance parties or one of the big clubs.

I think also oxford st is not very accessible from the west and north of sydney where a huge amount of gays live. Caesars was once very popular because of its location in the inner west and for being different.

perhaps some kind of late night transport service in and out of the area instead of people having to walk to george st late at night and risk violence or having to pay large amounts of $$$ for cabs.

oxford st was once filled with nice cafes and restaurants and interesting shops. nows it s junk yard.

and as said in previous posts everything is in decline even the saunas like bodyline are reported to be in desrepair. collectively it isn't appealing to people.

If they want a vibrant oxford st for the gay community then they need to consider these factors and more.

I agree that maybe moving it to another street away from such an obvious traffic hub might be the way to go but a vision like that would need a lot of money and investment. people with real vision.

you only need to look to cities that actually deserve the title of gay capitals and realise sydney lost that title a long time ago! I wonder if gay tourists are coming in the numbers they once did? I haven't seen any like I used to

mark_

mark_ said on the 12th Dec, 2012

http://images.smh.com.au/2012/12/10/3879993/art-3-20rainbow-620x349.jpg

The fools say this coloured paint will 'reclaim our’ street as the 'city's permanent reminder' that the street is the ‘Golden Mile’ for the gay community.

Well, I think it's paltry and slack compared to the city's permanent reminder constructed for the Chinese community.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2271/3545134373_a735479565_z.jpg

badamj2000

badamj2000 said on the 12th Dec, 2012

$75k is an outrageous waste of public money. Just build a big permanent flag pole and raise flags for various / festivities events?

MrAsh

MrAsh said on the 12th Dec, 2012

This is what they need and a full refurbishment of Taylor Square!

http://www.back2stonewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/castro-pride-flag-pole.jpg

MrAsh

MrAsh said on the 12th Dec, 2012

When the rainbow banners first came out (pardon the pun) in 2007. There was an upset about them as well. I can't find the exact SSO article, yet there were many upset people claiming not enough public consultation was done in regards to the design of the banners and the symbolic relevance of them to Oxford Street and Taylor Square.

http://www.starobserver.com.au/news/australia-news/new-south-wales-news/2008/04/20/the-sso-az-guide-to-queer-sydney/9666

Phazz

Phazz said on the 12th Dec, 2012

A toll booth would be profitable. It can be painted rainbow too.

JayTee

JayTee said on the 13th Dec, 2012

$75,000 can go along way in providing mental health and drug/alcohol outreach services patrolling Oxford St.

It could also go towards a more tangible permanent symbol of GLBTIQ acceptance in Sydney like a huge flagpole in Taylor Square, flying the rainbow flag like they have in San Francisco.

$75,000 would barely pay for one full time mental health worker for a year - let alone a budget so they can do their job half decently.

Do people look at flag poles? I would think that painted crossings would get peoples attention more.

mark_

mark_ said on the 13th Dec, 2012


Ash, you said the same about Circular Quay. I'm worried that our current masters want to do a 'a full refurbishment' of most of Darling Harbour. They want to demolish the Convention Centre; I haven't seen inside it yet :o

Light-Bearer

Light-Bearer said on the 13th Dec, 2012

$75,000 would barely pay for one full time mental health worker for a year - let alone a budget so they can do their job half decently.

Do people look at flag poles? I would think that painted crossings would get peoples attention more.

Try telling the cunt that ran me over

MrAsh

MrAsh said on the 13th Dec, 2012

$75,000 would barely pay for one full time mental health worker for a year - let alone a budget so they can do their job half decently.

Do people look at flag poles? I would think that painted crossings would get peoples attention more.

It would provide some assistance at least towards an outreach program.


And a flag pole would be a lot better and more respectable than having a painted crosswalk so queens can skip across it like Dorothy.

JayTee

JayTee said on the 13th Dec, 2012

It would provide some assistance at least towards an outreach program.


And a flag pole would be a lot better and more respectable than having a painted crosswalk so queens can skip across it like Dorothy.

you know I never had that image in my head. But it's a great image now! I can see thousands of tourists (and locals) skipping up and down the crossings now taking photos and posting them to facebook, twitter, instagram etc.

It's a genius idea to raise the profile (and revenue) of the golden mile.

MrAsh

MrAsh said on the 13th Dec, 2012

you know I never had that image in my head. But it's a great image now! I can see thousands of tourists (and locals) skipping up and down the crossings now taking photos and posting them to facebook, twitter, instagram etc.

It's a genius idea to raise the profile (and revenue) of the golden

It will be interesting to see how the local businesses and residents respond to this idea considering Oxford street isn't that GLBTIQ anymore and I'd also like to know what the RTA's opinion of this idea is as well. I can imagine drivers, pedestrians and cyclists at times being distracted by these gaudy gay crossings and accidents are bound to occur.

mark_

mark_ said on the 13th Dec, 2012



Clover doesn't care about accidents. People continue to get killed and bashed in Kings Cross but Mayor Moore wants a billion-dollar Night Time Economy

http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/business/CityEconomy/NightTimeEconomy.asp
http://www.uws.edu.au/ics/news/blog/240712

Light-Bearer

Light-Bearer said on the 13th Dec, 2012

Things have gone to hell in a handbasket ever since she won American Idol

DavoJimbo

DavoJimbo said on the 13th Dec, 2012

it wasn't American Idol - she won best in show at Westminster Kennel....

Dsquare

Dsquare said on the 13th Dec, 2012

I'm really starting to get worried about Australians in general and Sydney people in particular. All they ever seem to do is complain.

O.K. In some ways a rainbow crossing is a dumb idea. In others it's brilliant. $75K does seem like a lot of money, but given the parlous state of the budgets of all levels of govt. atm I guess that must be what it costs or they would do it cheaper. And it wasn't that long ago that they would have been happy to pay that much to get rid of us and now they want to spend it to highlight us. Let's just be happy with that.

Light-Bearer

Light-Bearer said on the 13th Dec, 2012

Who are you and why do you have Dsquare's computer.

May the power of Christ compel you

Barrin

Barrin said on the 13th Dec, 2012

I'm really starting to get worried about Australians in general and Sydney people in particular. All they ever seem to do is complain.

O.K. In some ways a rainbow crossing is a dumb idea. In others it's brilliant. $75K does seem like a lot of money, but given the parlous state of the budgets of all levels of govt. atm I guess that must be what it costs or they would do it cheaper. And it wasn't that long ago that they would have been happy to pay that much to get rid of us and now they want to spend it to highlight us. Let's just be happy with that.

Agree. 15 or 20 years ago (perhaps only 10) rainbows on Oxford St would have been capturing the zeitgeist. Now it just feels like they've run out of ideas.

Dsquare

Dsquare said on the 13th Dec, 2012

Who are you and why do you have Dsquare's computer.

May the power of Christ compel you

I'm on a 12 step program to heal my soul before the 21st.

The only step I've got left is to kill George Pell and forgive him. Hang on...........kiss? Fuck that, I'm going to hell!!

MrAsh

MrAsh said on the 13th Dec, 2012

You do know that $75,000 will pay for approximately 3,260 entries to Bodyline or 3,750 entries to Kingsteam or 4166 entries to Headquarters or 5,000 entries to Signal.

Now this money could be spent on Sex on Premises (SOP) vouchers to be handed out by ACON volunteers to people loitering around beats as a deterrent to illegal public sex.

Just a thought.

The_Freak

The_Freak said on the 13th Dec, 2012

You do know that $75,000 will pay for approximately 3,260 entries to Bodyline or 3,750 entries to Kingsteam or 4166 entries to Headquarters or 5,000 entries to Signal.

Now this money could be spent on Sex on Premises (SOP) vouchers to be handed out by ACON volunteers to people loitering around beats as a deterrent to illegal public sex.

Just a thought.

Could we perhaps do some "field research" into these places beforehand? ........ just perving! :D:D

Light-Bearer

Light-Bearer said on the 13th Dec, 2012

I'm on a 12 step program to heal my soul before the 21st.

The only step I've got left is to kill George Pell and forgive him. Hang on...........kiss? Fuck that, I'm going to hell!!

Welcome back brother.

crazzymikey

crazzymikey said on the 13th Dec, 2012

yes they shoudl have donated it to bodylien to make it a super luxurious mens spa :D

melsby

melsby said on the 13th Dec, 2012

No point in donating to bodyline, If they arent going to improve the facilities for the patrons in the present (especially when even small differences could make a large difference; ie replacing tiles, better locker locks) they wouldnt use the additional influx of cash to improve the place

mark_

mark_ said on the 13th Dec, 2012

http://images-2.domain.com.au/2012/12/13/3887276/art-Screen-20Shot-202012-12-13-20at-2011-56-32-20AM-620x349.jpg
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/forty-per-cent-of-george-street-to-be-carfree-zone-in-16-billion-sydney-tram-plan-20121213-2bb4j.html

Phazz

Phazz said on the 13th Dec, 2012

While I like trams more than buses, if the journey is going to be longer and cause more issues with traffic then maybe it's not such a good idea. Unless the buses are used on different routes in different parts of the city and cars are banned on more city streets during the day.

mark_

mark_ said on the 14th Dec, 2012

^ The map above is meant to indicate that the plan is that the tram NOT go up Oxford St.

The most surprising proposal is that cars be banned in George St between Town Hall and Wynyard.

wysi

wysi said on the 14th Dec, 2012

time to buy properties alongbthe tram route - they will skyrocket in value in 5 years!

Phazz

Phazz said on the 14th Dec, 2012

It doesn't need to go up Oxford St, however it needs to be scalable for population growth else there is no point wasting money on this. Look at the M2, needing to be widened after 15 years.

Tigerland

Tigerland said on the 14th Dec, 2012



I reckon that O-Bahn Bus on Rails thing they have going in Adelaide is kinda cool.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6mr3i_Vmz3c/SBf0FCa93iI/AAAAAAAAAds/ciAiJ6fwpxo/s640/P1060652cdp.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1182/1265618230_22cd8da8a4.jpghttp://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo6dum9ckr1qzn16no1_500.jpg

DavoJimbo

DavoJimbo said on the 14th Dec, 2012




oh yes, like land at the new airport site - and...... i would first consult with an Obeid or two, and see where they are buying....

shireboy

shireboy said on the 14th Dec, 2012



What makes the WHOLE IDEA / SUGGESTION of the tram thru the CBD and to Moore Park / East Subs utterly outrageous is that these suburbs are already HEAVILY provided with buses !!!!


The trams (like the damned rainbow) are just more examples of governments doing NOTHING of any value.

'Oh .... we need a tram that goes to the SCG and Uni...... we are 'suffering' at the moment... what... with the many buses that already pass thru these areas !!"

What about the rest of the East Subs ?

What about the Southen suburbs - around Brighton and Sans Souci ? What about the Shire ?? Where's all our $BILLIONS to be spent on transport ? There's much more to Sydney than just the few suburbs that require a tram

As for the Cloverpath - no cars in George Street - well it will be hell for the other streets ~!!


I too wonder if the Obeids have some land and properties in Randwick !!!!

crazzymikey

crazzymikey said on the 14th Dec, 2012

yes I agree they should be looking at transport for areas that dont have any or much at moment not adding to areas that already are provided for and the roads there are crowded enough without more road closures

DavoJimbo

DavoJimbo said on the 14th Dec, 2012

I think they should run a tram thru the inner west, summer hill,newtown, etc....I don't like trains but I really like the tram system in Melbourne....It would be less expensive because the distance is relatively short....the people that moved somewhere where they don't have good pubic transportation - silly geese - let them drive cars, and surcharge them for polluting the air.... :-)

crazzymikey

crazzymikey said on the 14th Dec, 2012



I think victoria road needs it more than anywhere. it is the slowest road in sydney and there are no trains

shireboy

shireboy said on the 14th Dec, 2012



given that we've gone from coloured crossings to lack of transport and trams.......

..... one wonders why there is ZERO transport options for those in the new ghettos close to town - those being Victoria Park and the Meriton Ghettos South Redfern ? Dump several more thousand people there - no shops - no transport - and call it a COOL PLACE TO LIVE ??!! WTF ??!!

http://eastvillage.com.au/
http://eastvillage.com.au/residential/location.php

WOW.... 120,000 nearby people ... and near 3 bus lines !!! and no tram ! but if you walk a few kilometres north you'll see a rainbow crossing :)

Phazz

Phazz said on the 15th Dec, 2012

The northern beaches need something too, however Military Rd is a nightmare for traffic at peak hour. Same with King St, Princes Hwy, Victoria Rd, etc.

MyBoyFreindIsGay

MyBoyFreindIsGay said on the 15th Dec, 2012

I believe they blew the yearly paint budget , so Doonside and Rooty Hill will also get rainbow Zebra crossings.
And half of Crows Nest Train station, also rainbow.

desmelbourne

desmelbourne said on the 15th Dec, 2012

we should soooo have this in Melbourne 2

shireboy

shireboy said on the 15th Dec, 2012



and Melbourne should sooooooooooooooooooo have a Clover Moore as well............... actually you should so have the original 2 !

Just supply her with a collection of dog collars, a few streets where she can have some massive ideas but no action - empty lifeless streets that she can compare to Paris - you've already got TRAMS TRAMS TRAMS (and BIKES - OMG..... CloverHeaven !) - and plenty of small little villages - hell - you in Melbourne have plenty of places for her ideas - like Collingwood and Prahan - with plenty of gay lapping dogs :)

Please just take her !!

Dsquare

Dsquare said on the 15th Dec, 2012

and Melbourne should sooooooooooooooooooo have a Clover Moore as well............... actually you should so have the original !

Just supply her with a collection of dog collars, a few streets where she can have some massive ideas but no action - empty lifeless streets that she can compare to Paris - and plenty of small little villages - hell - you in Melbourne have plenty of places for her ideas - like Collingwood and Prahan. Please just take her !!


We'll even throw in a monorail and a set of steak knives.

But wait, there's more (or Moore?). If you accept Clover within the next 30 minutes we'll also add this practically new, barely used Convention Center at no additional cost. You'll just need to scribble out the "Sydney" and "Darling Harbour" bits and write in Melbourne with a thick texta.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Sydney_Convention_Centre_at_Darling_Harbour.jpg


That's a total value of $2.99 all for the reasonable price of taking one slightly delusioned Lord Mayor off our hands. Hurry this offer can't last.

Athelios

Athelios said on the 15th Dec, 2012

Sydney city council owns most of the buildings on Oxford street, they need to reduce the rents and provide business type requirements that are approved for the area, so not any $2.00 shop or kebab shop can open up. Then again with such high rents I still can not workout how a $2.00 shop can survive (perhaps a front for an illegal establishment....)

But seriously, city council approved the opening of all these straight nightclubs that bring with it patrons whom arn't always as mentally stable or in the mindset that of what Oxford street represents. There is an entire city, but a cities planning comes down to city management. And a rainbow crossing which is great, isn't going to remove the beggers, homeless people, homophobic violence or stop venues from closing to be replaced by fast food outlets.

Athelios

Athelios said on the 15th Dec, 2012

Oh Dsquare, we'd love to have Clover Moore, and our streets arn't lifeless, sure our streets in these areas don't have an over abundance of pokie venues, adult shops and homeless beggers than you have in Sydney, but our streets have life, have outdoor dining, lots of cafes and bars, and did i mention WITH NO POKIES, laneways, trams....sure it sounds so so european, everything Sydney is fighting for.....

Which refers to my previous post, it comes down to City planning and management, Melbourne has ALWAYS had these things because of considerate planning and not following the leader as in Sydney, Sydney demolished its tramways, its laneways, it legislated that you couldnt bring a drink outside a venue, it legislated to bring is pokies into any venue that wanted late night trading etc etc. Melbourne deserves what it has, as our city was not overrun by the government, Sydney was, and now it's trying to fix it with laneways, wine bars, tramways....talk talk talk...nothing ever changes.

Dsquare

Dsquare said on the 15th Dec, 2012

O.k. How about a cross-city tunnel? We've got one of them that's not being used. A desalination plant? You could have a matching set.

Alright, you win. The Central Coast. You can't say no to the Central Coast. Gosford. Woy Woy. The self-funded retirees of Melbourne would be beside themselves with excitement.

shireboy

shireboy said on the 15th Dec, 2012

O.k. How about a cross-city tunnel? We've got one of them that's not being used. A desalination plant? You could have a matching set.

.

Better...how about a cross-dressing-city tunnel ??!!


Anyway - I havd dibs on the RAINBOW CROSSING TOURIST BUS TOUR

- $60 per person for unlimited crossings in a 24hr period

- $30 for photos - no unauthorised pictures allowed (just like the Santa pic conditions !!).

- Rainbow Coloured Dog Collars - $35

Dsquare

Dsquare said on the 16th Dec, 2012

Better...how about a cross-dressing-city tunnel ??!!


Anyway - I havd dibs on the RAINBOW CROSSING TOURIST BUS TOUR

- $60 per person for unlimited crossings in a 24hr period

- $30 for photos - no unauthorised pictures allowed (just like the Santa pic conditions !!).

- Rainbow Coloured Dog Collars - $35

I'm thinking we may have a lot of tourists doing the "gay Abbey Rd" thing. Although I wouldn't want to be Paul - walking around Surry Hills barefoot is just asking for trouble.


http://simplymarvellous.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/simpsonsabbey.jpg

MrAsh

MrAsh said on the 16th Dec, 2012

Oh Dsquare, we'd love to have Clover Moore, and our streets arn't lifeless, sure our streets in these areas don't have an over abundance of pokie venues, adult shops and homeless beggers than you have in Sydney, but our streets have life, have outdoor dining, lots of cafes and bars, and did i mention WITH NO POKIES, laneways, trams....sure it sounds so so european, everything Sydney is fighting for.....

Which refers to my previous post, it comes down to City planning and management, Melbourne has ALWAYS had these things because of considerate planning and not following the leader as in Sydney, Sydney demolished its tramways, its laneways, it legislated that you couldnt bring a drink outside a venue, it legislated to bring is pokies into any venue that wanted late night trading etc etc. Melbourne deserves what it has, as our city was not overrun by the government, Sydney was, and now it's trying to fix it with laneways, wine bars, tramways....talk talk talk...nothing ever changes.

In Melbourne a rainbow street crossing would be done a lot better. It would be well thought out, have a lot of input from the community, it would be culturally sensitive and compliment the urban environment where it is located.

Sydney's version is just a slap dash paint job on the street and doesn't have any consideration for the urban environment or community it represents.

Also Clover Moore is one of the reasons why Oxford Street is the way it is. Until mid this year she was both the local MP for the Seat of Sydney and Lord Mayor of Sydney (and now just the Lord Mayor), if she was ever serious about revitalising Oxford Street she would have done a lot more than she did and would of campaigned for better mental health and drug and alcohol programs to deal with the rough sleepers and anti-social behaviour on Oxford Street and she would have made council take more consideration into what kind of retail and food stores opened on Oxford Street and she would have really made an effort to correct the urban design disaster which Taylor Square is.

JayTee

JayTee said on the 16th Dec, 2012

We'll even throw in a monorail and a set of steak knives.

But wait, there's more (or Moore?). If you accept Clover within the next 30 minutes we'll also add this practically new, barely used Convention Center at no additional cost. You'll just need to scribble out the "Sydney" and "Darling Harbour" bits and write in Melbourne with a thick texta.



Why is Moore being blamed for the darling harbor and monorail issues? They are State not council assets.

JayTee

JayTee said on the 16th Dec, 2012



a rainbow crossing which is great, isn't going to remove ...., homeless people......

Yes homeless people don't know how go colour co ordinate with our rainbows and sparkles so they must be removed. After all we shouldn't have to look on such eyesores as homeless people.....

ps.
Perhaps you meant "help" (not remove) homeless people?

Dsquare

Dsquare said on the 16th Dec, 2012



I'm not blaming Clover for them, I just thought maybe if we bundled together all of the useless "assets" we want to get rid of - the monorial, Convention Centre, Clover etc - it might make for a more attractive deal.

If they're gonna take Clover off our hands they're gonna need to be compensated somehow.