"Time is ticking by so fast…will it get better?"

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“This is my life as a middle-aged single gay man,” writes Glenn, a 48-year-old Sydneysider.

“I’m not a writer, but I thought I’d give this a go,” he tells Same Same. “It’s from the heart and might touch others in the same position.”


People say life begins at 40, well I’m here to tell you it doesn’t. When I hit 40 my life stopped.

As happens to a lot of people in the gay scene, after you hit 40 things slow down and we are not as attractive as we used to be to others. There are so many people out there that are shallow and only want people under 30. I guess it’s their way of recapturing their youth.

One of the things I have noticed about myself is that loneliness has set in. I was and still am single and don’t seem to fit in anymore in the scene. I’ve found myself sitting in a corner of a bar watching everyone playing with their mobile phones (I can only assume they are on Grindr talking to each other.) You would be amazed the thoughts that go through my head sometimes, like “what’s wrong with me?”, or “am I too old and ugly?”

Even watching others in couples or just meeting for the first time… having that little pash at the side of the bar… can cause me to be down. Don’t get me wrong, I am happy for them. It can just be a very horrible and lonely experience to be left out of the world.

I can only guess that this would be a leading cause of depression amongst the gay world. Because we are forgotten, I bet there aren’t even statistics on this.

“There really has to be more to life than this. ”

After 40 things really do change, you find yourself going to the saunas more in the hope that someone there finds you attractive enough to give you a little bit of affection even if it is for a few minutes in a darkened cubicle, but more likely they pick me because its dark enough to make it difficult for them to see. You can also find yourself wandering around the beats late at night. The only good thing about that is you see other people who look as though they are in a similar boat.

Before anyone reading this says “he is a whinger” or “get out and meet people,” I can tell you I have tried all that. I have been to several social gatherings, but find that I’m just too shy and don’t know how to interact with others, so I again sit in a corner all alone wandering what’s going on.

I remember a time when the scene was so friendly that you could be sitting in a bar alone and someone from another group would invite you to join them. I remember dinner parties and picnics. That has all stopped now, most probably because of my age.

As I write this I’m sitting in an empty home thinking what is the point of telling others my story. I guess I just wanted others like me to know you are not the only ones.

If I do manage to get lucky and meet someone I can let my guard down and take stupid chances. I have been robbed four times so far. It’s not a nice feeling to wake up in the morning and find money or possessions missing. This just starts the cycle all over again and I find I lock myself away for a few weeks.

There really has to be more to life than this. I do have some friends, but they have their own lives to live and in all fairness I don’t want to trouble them with my problems.

Who knows, one day I might find someone that will make me happy and complete, but I’m feeling it’s not going to happen. I’m 48 now and time is ticking by me so fast I’m can only hope it will get better.


We’re very grateful to Glenn for sharing his thoughts with us.

What do you think? Does anyone have any advice for Glenn, or does anyone else feel they’re in the same situation as him? Share your experiences and ideas below.

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glennie54

glennie54 said on the 16th Aug, 2012

Glenn, firstly my heart goes out to you because you seem to want to genuinely belong to someone or something that will make you feel fantastically fabulous about yourself. However, until YOU feel fantastic and fabulous about yourself....you can't expect someone else to take on that responsibility. I left a straight marriage at 40, with 3 kids to consider, because I was extremely unhappy ...and my husband couldn't make my happiness happen. I worked hard at finding out who I really was....and discovered I was gay. That started a whole other journey, as I didn't know what it was to be in the gay world....and I was terrified. Starting this journey at 42 was the scariest , and most amazing thing I have ever done. I can't say it was easy, or fast or even that it is over, but 15 years down the track I have found the love of my lifetimes! and I have found a career at helping others find their happiness. I don't think what you are experiencing is about being gay and/or 40 ...I think it is about a human being experiencing life. Find things in your life that make your heart sing. Something that you feel passionate about....singing, dancing, writing, painting, photography, basket weaving!!! It doesn't matter. Just find something to be passionate about and go from there....someone to be passionate about will follow when you open up and let the passion in. It isn't about sex or love or anyone else. It's about you first and foremost. Have a relationship with you, get to know who you really are and then you can share that with others when the time is right. Good luck...and love to you.

Chancethegardener

Chancethegardener said on the 17th Aug, 2012

I've seen this a lot in middle aged gay men and to be quite honest I find it sad.

"I'm no longer beautiful... I'm no longer attractive..." etc. etc. It's clear to everyone else but the afflicted that the biggest problem is with the afflicted person themselves. It doesn't take a Freudian flair to realise that the more you carry on like that the more likely you are to believe it yourself, and likelier still are you to drive any potential new friends away with your woebegone outlook. Seriously, who would want to shack up with someone so maudlin?

To be perfectly frank, most of the middle aged gay men I see in this situation have spent their entire lives in the scene. I think that has a lot to do with why they've found themselves like this at this stage in their lives. Socialising and existing entirely in the gay world is probably not the healthiest way to develop your sense of self, especially in middle age. One should always spread one's wings, as it were, and personally I think you need to be comfortable with being yourself in both the gay and straight world equally.

If you spend your time exclusively in the former then where's the diversity of experience? Life doesn't end at 40, but at the same time I think life should never exist inside a single, isolated scene. Nor is this specific to us homos either - can you imagine a 48 YO straight man rocking up to a hetero nightclub looking for his next fulfilling relationship at the bar or on the dance floor? He'd likely experience the same things Glen describes, if not worse. Strangely, middle aged straight men either never do this or don't do it often, which begs the question of why do many middle aged gay men insist in doing it and insist in becoming downtrodden when nothing comes of it? Is it some form of Peter Pan syndrome?

I think you not wanting to bother your friends is a sign that things aren't going well for you at all, and you might start thinking about getting some help. Have you talked to your friends about how you're feeling, and if so have you said to them that you feel like you need a little extra support from them, if only for a wee while? Your friends will help you through stuff like this - that's what friends do!

Glenn, I just think you're looking for love in all the wrong places. I'm sure it will get better for you, but you have to start thinking differently. If you don't have the faculties to make some changes on your own then seek professional advice and help. Seeing a psychologist isn't stigmatised as it once was, and I've heard from many guys I know that a bit of CBT can go a long way.

Or first branch out and join a club or something that interests you - be it gardening clubs, book clubs, naturalist clubs etc., or do a course in something you're interested in. You'll meet people with which you have interests in common so conversation will be easy.

You can't keep going the way you are, the more you repeat these thoughts the harder they'll be to break out of.

Good luck, Glenn. Things will get better, but remember that you have to help them along! It isn't all going to happen to you without working at it.

Don't give up!

shireboy

shireboy said on the 17th Aug, 2012

What an interesting thread.... more interesting in the responses and the ages of those - There's mixture of those under 30... and those around of above the age of the OP.


Ok.. let's kick off my reply ...


The OP states that he is 48 yrs old - and along side that that he's 'middle aged'.

Hell - I will be turning 48 in... gee... 2 mths time... and MIDDLE AGE is that last thing that I would refer myself as. Get over that age part : you can't do anything about that - everyone ages, and get over referring yourself as middle aged as well. Age is a number - nothing more. If you feel that 'age' - then it will show.


There are however a few things that come with 'age' : "experience" and "wear and tear" come to mind ..........


Experience is great for the bullshit that you see and hear. Use that experience to come up with a conversation. And from your 'experiences' with meeting some : learn from that ! The bullshit of inviting someone to your environment without knowing who/m they are - then use your 'experience' from that - here's some FANTASTIC suggestions : if you meet someone and take them home or invite them around ; GRAB A SMART PHONE AND TAKE A PICTURE OF THEM !! Hey that will come handy if anyone decides to steal from you. Oh.. and a deadlock on the door can also be handy :) And from my limited experience ' saunas aren't the place to be - they're a tad depressing.


"Wear and tear" is the body telling you that you either need to 'upgrade' or 'work out' a little bit more.

Us 'old guys' need to look after ourselves more - and that's not just the body. Just some new clothes, get a new colour, get some style (and that doesn't include Lowes or Kmart). Get a new hair style, and if you're bald, think of a trimmed beard :). Glasses : if you wear them - update them as well. Just a few make over tips to get you thinking / looking younger. And then there's the gym : yes - a few extra kilos on that midsection don't help - especially with some of the sad clothes that I see some 'middle age' guys wear. And there's always the conversations you can have there, once you get to know a few guys there. (** Just a warning though : don't go overboard and scare everyone - just do it gradually - and NO HAIR COLOURING TO ANYONE WITH GREY HAIR - embrace the grey - Bruce Willis and George Clooney do !! :) )


I know what it's like with the 'married mates' - but can I tell you something..... don't think that being 'married' is perfection !!! (well there's the fights and arguments that I hear about ... but hey ..... we wont tell anyone that :) !!) There's always that BOYFRIEND PILLOW that I saw online the other day - http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/77293 - and sorry... it doesn't come with a dick !! Then there's the 'serial' married mates... married...single.. married... single.. married... sorry who is it this week ???


I know what it's like to be SINGLE... yep - been that way ALL MY LIFE .... BUT that's been my choice .... and of course I've never found 'Mr Right' as well (there's been plenty of Mr Wrongs and Mr WhatF***PlanetAreYouOn ??!!)> And of course that means I can do what I want on weekends - and it allows me to get out to friends when I want to.


(There is of course the last resort option : and that means travelling to a South Eastern Asian country - but again.... you will definitely need to rethink that one before contemplation. ** waiting for the 'racist' comment on this - but I'm thinking the 'bride' option !!)


Finally : BEING ALONE. Why do 'we' put so much pressure on ourselves to be with someone else ?? Why is our 'happiness' so related to being with another ?? If you are SHY now - do you think that the SHYNESS will disappear when you find someone else ?? Find things to do : find interests / start reading news - listening to music - watching TV and movies - and you'll have some areas to start talking about (well... except Big Brother !!).



AND EDIT : one's profile has this ' All About Me' - it might be time to put something in there !!

biglebstud

biglebstud said on the 18th Aug, 2012

I've seen this a lot in middle aged gay men and to be quite honest I find it sad.

"I'm no longer beautiful... I'm no longer attractive..." etc. etc. It's clear to everyone else but the afflicted that the biggest problem is with the afflicted person themselves. It doesn't take a Freudian flair to realise that the more you carry on like that the more likely you are to believe it yourself, and likelier still are you to drive any potential new friends away with your woebegone outlook. Seriously, who would want to shack up with someone so maudlin?

To be perfectly frank, most of the middle aged gay men I see in this situation have spent their entire lives in the scene. I think that has a lot to do with why they've found themselves like this at this stage in their lives. Socialising and existing entirely in the gay world is probably not the healthiest way to develop your sense of self, especially in middle age. One should always spread one's wings, as it were, and personally I think you need to be comfortable with being yourself in both the gay and straight world equally.

If you spend your time exclusively in the former then where's the diversity of experience? Life doesn't end at 40, but at the same time I think life should never exist inside a single, isolated scene. Nor is this specific to us homos either - can you imagine a 48 YO straight man rocking up to a hetero nightclub looking for his next fulfilling relationship at the bar or on the dance floor? He'd likely experience the same things Glen describes, if not worse. Strangely, middle aged straight men either never do this or don't do it often, which begs the question of why do many middle aged gay men insist in doing it and insist in becoming downtrodden when nothing comes of it? Is it some form of Peter Pan syndrome?

I think you not wanting to bother your friends is a sign that things aren't going well for you at all, and you might start thinking about getting some help. Have you talked to your friends about how you're feeling, and if so have you said to them that you feel like you need a little extra support from them, if only for a wee while? Your friends will help you through stuff like this - that's what friends do!

Glenn, I just think you're looking for love in all the wrong places. I'm sure it will get better for you, but you have to start thinking differently. If you don't have the faculties to make some changes on your own then seek professional advice and help. Seeing a psychologist isn't stigmatised as it once was, and I've heard from many guys I know that a bit of CBT can go a long way.

Or first branch out and join a club or something that interests you - be it gardening clubs, book clubs, naturalist clubs etc., or do a course in something you're interested in. You'll meet people with which you have interests in common so conversation will be easy.

You can't keep going the way you are, the more you repeat these thoughts the harder they'll be to break out of.

Good luck, Glenn. Things will get better, but remember that you have to help them along! It isn't all going to happen to you without working at it.

Don't give up!

Really well said, m8! . . . Glenn if ya don't listen to anyone else then take Chancethegardener's sound advice!

Paddy31

Paddy31 said on the 18th Aug, 2012

Glenn, having read your story and many the posts, I was reminded of a story I read in the early 90's, which spoke about gay mens aging.
The author referred to it as "Peter Pan Syndrome". Peter Pan of course being the boy who never grew up.

I think your biggest problem and the most telling part of your story, is summed up in one line from the article:"one day I might find someone that will make me happy and complete".
You cannot love another until you learn to love yourself.
Stop looking for a partner.
Stop confusing sex for intimacy or companionship.
Start realising that sex is not love.
Treat yourself with a bit of respect.
Stop the anonymous sex in beats and sex on premises venues.
Get some counselling.

Questions to ask yourself are:
Do you really need a relationship to make your life complete?
If so, then why?
A relationship may or may not be a part of your life. The main thing is accepting your life as it is at the moment, and being happy about it.
You can't expect someone else to love you, when you don't love yourself.
Do whatever it takes, professional help in need be, to find a relationship with yourself.

I have to ask one other question:
Why are you going to gay bars?
I mean what is the attraction?
The music is loud, and it's crap. There is no entertainment on offer, drag is not entertainment. No food or dining facilities available. No natural light. The only thing on offer is over priced drinks.
All you'll find is mutton dressed up as lamb, self indulgence, addicts (drugs, sex, alcohol, gambling and more) and huge egos covering up very low self esteem.
If they took the alcohol away, nobody would ever go.

Expand your horizons.
If you're working, get involved in the social side of your workplace.
If not get a job, any job, doesn't matter what you're doing, or maybe look at doing some form of study.
Find things you are interested in and get involved with groups of people who like doing those things.
Not just gay people, go out into the mainstream community and get involved.
Sport, politics, religion, community service, fundraising, theatre, arts, bushwalking and many other types of groups are all out there waiting for you to join. But join and participate because you want to be involved in the group's main activity, not because you want a partner.

Izzy Inn

Izzy Inn said on the 22nd Aug, 2012

Glenn, coming to Same Same for compassion and understanding was your first mistake as there are so many, so immature & so inexperienced, that they think that attacking you with harsh so called 'truths' is being cruel to be kind. Its f*&king nonsense and they have no idea of the possible consequences of their posts beyond typing and posting them.

You feel how you feel, thats it. Its not for anyone here to psychoanalyse you, and any comment in this thread without positive, constructive criticism should be ignored. No two people are the same and a lot of the people posting in this thread clearly fail to realise this and judge you based on their own experiences (which to be fair is all they have). Which is why the only people qualified to offer that sort of feedback are your friends and close family, people who know you and your story, or a professional therapist/psycologist. Not anonymous posters on here.

You should consider seeing a therapist as they can help give you the tools to change the things you can, accept the things you can't, and send your life in a different direction. They can also help you with self esteem. Its not for everyone but in the past in helped me.

Another thing to consider is approaching some of the GLTBQ Charities (or any charity for that matter) and volunteering. There are many ways you can help them and you will meet so many great social people, with positive attitudes, from all age groups, who you probably would never crossed paths with otherwise. Also, start looking into social groups or support groups, I reckon there are so many going through something similar, the GLTBQ charities may be able to assist with this.

You could find a new hobby or interest, something you have always wanted to learn or try, that you never got around to or followed up. Developing new interests is another great way to bring new, like-minded people into your life.

Another final thing to do may be to chat to your doctor, to make sure your not depressed. Its something to keep an eye on with the way you have expressed that you are feeling. Depression comes in many forms with many symptoms beyond simply feeling 'depressed', and if diagnosed, treatment could help get you started on a new path.

All the best and good luck.

DavoJimbo

DavoJimbo said on the 10th Oct, 2012

When I was single and looking in my mid 40's, I did not once consider hanging out by myself in gay bars, the beat, or a sauna. I would not expect to find either a partner or to make friends in any of those beats - I would expect to find mr right now, nothing more. Which is fine is that is what you are looking for.
But you seem to want to find friends, or a relationship - and you are looking in all the wrong places -
It it revolves around sex or alcohol, it will attract those who are seeking just that.
There are numerous activities that involve gay people that are not all about sex.
gay bowls, gay footy, gay chorus, gay walking/hiking/running groups, etc.etc.
the list is pretty much endless. There are gay religious groups. And any number of educational type activities - learning a new language, learning to paint, learning to cook, etc. that may not lead to finding gay friends, but I enjoy my straight friends as much as my gay ones... And then of course there are the internet dating (not instant sex - i.e. grinder) sites.
If you put up a non sexual profile , fully clothed, and are somewhat specific about what you are looking for, I can not imagine that it would not generate some response from others seeking the same thing.
You have to be in it to win it - and the prize available depends on the contest you enter - you want to win an instant blow job, then buy a ticket to the sauna. You want to win friends and make new mates, then cast your net a little wider than bars and sex venues.